140804

Meeting, AKU Oahpa, 4.8.2014

Present: Heli, Jaska, Trond

Agenda

  • Participants
  • Language of instruction
  • Budget
  • Course goals
  • Course planning day by day
  • Documentation
  • List of Languages
  • Next meeting

Participants

  • bxr
    • Jargal Badagarov, Ulan Ude (rus, eng)
  • izh
    • Timo Rantakaulio? (fin, rus, eng)
  • kpv
    • Paula Kokkonen?, StPb (fin, rus, eng) ?
    • Galina Misharina?, Hki (fin, rus, )
    • Enye Lav? (rus, fin, eng?)?
  • mdf
    • -
  • mhr
    • Andrei Chemyshev?, Syktyvkar (rus, eng?)
  • mrj
    • Julia Kuprina, Hki (rus, fin, eng?)
  • myv
    • Ivan Ryabov, Saransk (rus, deu)
    • Jelena Klementjeva, Saransk (rus)
  • olo
    • Giloeva?, Jsuu (fin, rus)
  • yrk
    • Lotta Jalava, Hki (fin, eng, rus)
  • udm
    • Svetlana Yedigarova, Hki (fin, rus)
    • Nadi Muš, Tln (est, rus, fin)
  • vep
    • -

TODO:

  • Check the ones on the list and fill in evt. empty slots (Jaska)

Language of instruction

  • Preferably Russian
  • Slides in Russian, talk in English at least in the beginning

Budget

Costs

  • Travel (Jaska)
  • Accommodation (Jaska)
  • Salary, Heli (Tromsø)

Income

AKU, UiT, own financing?

TODO: Specify costs (T, J) Look at financing (T, J)

Course goals

How do we create linguistic content for Oahpa

During the week we will

  • set up Oahpas for the participating languages at the following level
    • Numra (Evaluate, a preliminary version is set up on beforehand)
    • Leksa (Words, semantic sets !!)
    • Morfa-S (Noun case-number and verb setup)
    • Morfa-C (Make some frames, set them up and see them work)
  • plan for further work on the respective Oahpa versions
  • plan how to integrate Oahpa in course curricula

Course planning day by day

Preparing before the course

  • Setting up user accounts, basic SVN.

Day 0:

  • Preliminary course in Unix, svn, etc, for people not having done this before.
  • All participants shall have checked out (at least) the ped catalogue and a working version of their own fst on their own machine (cf. the getting started page.)
  • basic SVN course. What is it, how to update, check in, etc.

Day 1:

Introduction

  • Giellatekno overview (infrastructure, projects, tools, Oahpa) (Heli, Trond)
  • Presentations by the participants about their languages and existing resources (textbooks a.o. teaching materials, corpora, language technology tools)

Leksa

Day 2:

  • More Leksa
  • Morfa-S
    • Drafting the case/number and person/number/tense forms to be included (Individuals should have this all thought out before hand ... )
    • Evaluating the fsts
    • Setting up the infrastructure for the respective exercises
  • Homework by Thursday:
    • think about the productive Morfa-C frames in your language - which cases, which verbs?

Day 3:

hands-on

Numra

  • Evaluating existing Numras
  • How to improve them:
    • Learning how to correct automata
    • Learning how to extend Numra to ordinal, date, clock.

Leksa, Morfa-S

  • Continuing work

Day 4:

hands-on

  • Setting up Morfa-S. Case list, possible additional menus.
  • Writing Morfa-C frames.
  • Extending Leksa: Place names. The names that are different in the indigenous language

Day 5:

  • General discussion
    • New ideas, thoughts that have come up while implementing Oahpa for your language.
    • Discussing how to integrate Oahpa in language courses. Presenting kursa
  • Summing up and future work
    • How to proceed with the development of your Oahpa.

TODO:

  • Work with the content of the program (orgkom)

Documentation

PRELIMINARY READING etc. (tasks for participants)

  1. Links on the Giellatekno pages
    1. How to build Oahpa programs
    2. How to build Oahpa programs (in Russian)
    3. About the Giellatekno infrastructure
  2. Look at an existing Oahpa, for Kildin Saami:
    1. Kildin Saami Oahpa
    2. The underlying source files
  3. Look for and take along some learning materials (textbooks, workbooks, dictionaries). Best if they (also) exist in electronic format but paper format is also ok.
  4. Think about the issues that need special pedagogical focus in your language, e.g. using some case(s).
  5. Look at some Oahpa instances online (North Saami Oahpa, testing.oahpa.no/rusoahpa, testing.oahpa.no/fkv_oahpa, testing.oahpa.no/crk_oahpa), get inspiration and think about the analogies/differences with your language. (?)

The Oahpa pages for developers

... are today in English. In Russian as well? We want the "for developer" pages in Russian as well.

TODO:

  • Set up dummy files (Trond)
  • Machine translate + correct translation (barnraising project:all)
  • Integrate result in existing pages (links from above) Trond, Heli

Documentation pages for each Oahpa version

Set up dummy pages (Trond)

List of languages involved:

Languages with Oahpa setup

  • bxr - no setup
  • izh - testing.oahpa.no/izh_oahpa
  • kpv - oahpa.no/kpvoahpa
  • mdf - testing.oahpa.no/mdf_oahpa
  • mhr - testing.oahpa.no/mhr_oahpa
  • mrj - testing.oahpa.no/mrj_oahpa
  • myv - oahpa.no/erzya
  • olo - testing.oahpa.no/olo_oahpa
  • udm - testing.oahpa.no/udm_oahpa
  • vep - testing.oahpa.no/vep_oahpa
  • yrk - oahpa.no/yrkoahpa

TODO:

Set up bxr_oahpa (Heli)

Languages with transcriptors for Numra

  • bxr - no
  • izh - no
  • kpv - yes
  • mdf - yes
  • mhr - yes
  • mrj - yes
  • myv - yes
  • olo - yes
  • udm - no (numbers, clock Jaska)
  • vep - no
  • yrk - yes

TODO:

Make at least ordinals for the missing ones (Jaska, Trond) bjargal@mail.ru

Status for automata for the different languages

Grades:

  • A = comprehensive (speller quality)
  • B = Good (can be basis for text analysis, albeit with errors)
  • C = Basic vocabulary (expected to generate most Morfa-S words)
  • D = Parts of the vocabulary (Generates only part of what Morfa-S wants)

Status:

  • bxr - D
  • izh - C
  • kpv - B
  • mdf - B
  • mhr - B
  • mrj - B
  • myv - B
  • olo - C
  • udm - B
  • vep - D
  • yrk - C

Place names for leksa

  • bxr -
  • izh -
  • kpv -
  • mdf -
  • mhr -
  • mrj -
  • myv -
  • olo -
  • udm -
  • vep -
  • yrk -

Languages for which there are concrete plans for Oahpa work

  • bxr -
  • izh -
  • kpv -
  • mdf -
  • mhr -
  • mrj - yes (Kuprina Course)
  • myv - yes (Jerina course)
  • olo - yes (Giloeva course book)
  • udm -
  • vep -
  • yrk -

Next meeting

Aug 15th 0900 Swedish time.