110307_komi

Present: Aleksej, Marina, Jack, Paula, Sjur, Trond

(please fill inn, all of you):

We have a draft text here:

~/plan/barents/admin/applications/NFR2011/draft.jspwiki

Deadline NFR (Norwegian research council): 13.4.

Program for Northern Areas (which of several programs is still not clear)

• Practical: How to organize the writing
• Use SVN
  • (Aleksej: Help Marina with setting up TortoiseSVN)
  • All: Make sure we have access to the Gt private svn area

Børre should have fixed it by today. Documentation

svn co https: //gtsvn.uit.no/langtech/trunk main --username <your_username>

... where you have replaced <your_username> with the username you have aquired from the admin. This will enable you to check in your work. If you don't have a user name or just want to browse our code, just skip the username.

After you have checked out, please run the following script, and follow the on-screen instructions:

main/gt/script/gtsetup.sh

(and then answer "yes" when asked if you want the private files)

Aleksej/Marina: Documentation

... and then the reference to the private

(The whole text (all languages, all chapters) = 10-15 pages, + the summary)

Share chapters between us (details below):

(the sub-chapters for Komi):

• Scientific perspectives of the Komi work (Trond)
  • Analysers and why they are nice for us, corpora, ...
• Practical project goal for Komi (Jaska)
  • dictionaries, spellers, hyphenators - later also machine translation etc.
• Linguistic content and linguistic work (Paula)
  • what must be done
• Overview of broader Komi linguistic landscape (Marina)
  • dialects, number of speakers, relationship with the majority language, vitality of the lang. community
• Komi norm (Marina)
  • status, open issues, variation, who decides about the norm, etc.
  • language-political consequences
• Practical organisation of the work in Syktyvkar (Marina)
  • local head of team, team members (roles, not necessarily names)
• Komi budget (Marina)
  • Sums and understanding of costs in Syktyvkar
  • overhead should be covered by Syktyvkar? (the Russian part of the project costs?)

Sjurs question: is it a disadvantage not to include Nenets
=> The NFR may answer that question. <=
v Rossii: ne znaju - i do not know -
- Narjan Mar (in the Barents Regiom)
- Salekhard (bigger, but further away)
Lotta Jalava 
Tapani Salminen

Write separate chapters for each language, as indicated above

• Summary of the project (common)
• Content of the project (Komi)

• The project goal
• analysers
• e-dictionary:
  • kv-ru, kv-fi, kv-en;
  • ru-kv (we can make an "intelligent" e-dictionary of whatever is accessible)
• proofing tools

• We need to specify the situation for the Komi written norm. (Marina+Paula)
  • is it fixed? -- yes.
  • are there open issues?
  • Komi-Zyrian <== "Komi"
  • Komi-Permjak (= a different language with 7 more m-cases and their own AO) komi-zyr analyser may be adapted into komi-permjak "for free" // without too much work
• basis for other, future applications (MT)
• Separate point: The scientific merits of the project
• analysers + syntactic analysis as basis for MT
• corpora as research data
• Terminology

• Task organisation, schedule:
  • analysers
  • corpus
  • proofing tools
  • dictionaries

• Practical organisation of the work in Syktyvkar (appr. 1/3 page or less?)
  • For example (this will also / perhaps rather be presented in the budget):
  • The partner in Syktyvkar= Syktyvkar State University (The Department of Komi Philology at Syktyvkar State University)
  • The workers will use the University offices
  • The employment costs will be paid by the project

• Status quo
• Practical: How to organize the project
  • Syktyvkar
  • Lovozero
  • Tromsø

• For Komi group: Friday 11.3 at 2000 (M)
• For the whole group: 15.3 at 11.30 Msk)