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Notes from an ad-hoc discussion 19.4.2012
Merging Actio, Der/n and Der/eapmi
Reason for discussion
- Der/n and Der/eapmi are in complementary distribution, and express the same
- Actio and Der/Actio are the same thing as well, just used in different syntactic contexts
- in some cases there are two forms, one long and one short, parallel to what
- in eastern dialects the long forms are used in cases where western dialects
Change it like this?
- Der/n, Der/eapmi and Actio in the present tagset is changed to Der/Actio
- the new Der/Actio gets a full noun paradigm, with both Sg and Pl, and all
Discussion
Nickel/Sammallahti har tre grupper:
Dagens norm-fst: borran borran borrat+V+TV+Actio+Gen borran borrat+V+TV+Actio+Nom borran borrat+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes borran borrat+V+TV+PrfPrc borran borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Gen <==== Der/n => Der/NomAct + Allegro borran borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Nom borrama borrama borrat+V+TV+Actio+Gen <==== denne fjernes borrama borrat+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes borrama borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Gen <=== Der/NomAct borrama borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Acc <=== Der/NomAct borramiin <==== legge til Actio+Com borramiin borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Pl+Loc <=== Der/NomAct borramiin borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Com <=== Der/NomAct borramis borramis borrat+V+TV+Actio+Loc borramis borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Nom+PxSg3 borramis borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Acc+PxSg3 borramis borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Gen+PxSg3 borramis borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Loc <=== Der/NomAct borrame borrame borrat+V+TV+Actio+Ess <==== Short? Argument mot: bruken er dialektavhengig, og da bør taggene være de samme for begge dialektene. borrame borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Ess <==== denne fjernes borramin borramin borrat+V+TV+Actio+Ess borramin borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Ess <=== Der/NomAct lágidan lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Der/eapmi+N+Sg+Gen <==== denne vil opptre kun i sammensetninger. Vi kan evt innføre lágidit+V+TV+Der/N+Cmp ? lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Nom lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Gen lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes lágideami lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Der/eapmi+N+Sg+Acc lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Der/eapmi+N+Sg+Gen lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Gen <==== denne fjernes lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes lágideame lágideame lágidit+V+TV+Der/eapmi+N+Sg+Gen+Allegro <=== Der/NomAct lágideame lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Ess lágideame lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Gen <==== denne fjernes lágideame lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes lágideamen lágideamen lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Ess
Fra korpus:
"<Son>" "son" Pron Pers Sg3 Nom @SUBJ> "<lei>" "leat" V IV Ind Prt Sg3 @+FAUXV "<merkestemiinis>" "merket" V* TV Der/st Der/eapmi N Pl Loc PxSg3 @ADVL> <======= Px "<hui>" "hui" Adv @>ADVL "<vuollegaččat>" "vuollegaččat" Adv @ADVL> "<govvidan>" "govvidit" V TV PrfPrc @-FMAINV "<dán>" "dát" Pron Dem Sg Acc @>N "<ártegis>" "ártet" A Sg Gen PxSg3 @>N "<olmmošgaskavuođa>" "olmmoš#gaskavuohta" N Sg Acc @<OBJ "<,>"
Nickel/Sammallahti:
1) Innafor verbalet:
2) Utafor verbalet:
>>>>>>>>>>> čállit+V+TV+Actio+Acc <<<<<<<<<<<<<< dette er den problematiske
(čállin girji) skal samskrives slik: - čállingirji - skrivebok +Der/NomAct+N
296:
3) Avleiing
Actions
- hiva ut actio acc och ill, och in alla andra (og fjern alle Err/Sub)
- bare korformen skal ha Actio Gen (borrama og lágideame og lágideami skal bort)
- hiva in alla px: ar igen, ja ved derivasjonane
- lágidan Der/NomAct ska bara gå till R
- follow-up on the CG to check that the removed tag doesn't create changed