Meeting_2007-09-10

Meeting setup

  • Date: 10.9.2007
  • Time: 09.30 Norw. time
  • Place: Internet
  • Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat/Skype

Agenda

  1. Opening, agenda review
  2. Reviewing the task list from last week
  3. Documentation - divvun.no
  4. Corpus gathering
  5. Corpus infrastructure
  6. Infrastructure
  7. Linguistics
  8. name lexicon infrastructure
  9. Spellers
  10. Other issues
  11. Summary, task lists
  12. Closing

1. Opening, agenda review, participants

Opened at 09: 41.

Present: Sjur, Thomas, Trond

Absent: Børre, Ilona, Per-Eric, Tomi

Agenda accepted as is.

2. Updated task status since last meeting

Børre

  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
  • add semi-automatic updates of fixed and open issues to README files
  • fix bugs!

Ilona

  • lexicalise missing words
  • add sme names from FIN
    • worked on it
  • make smn propernoun-list

Maaren

  • lexicalise actio compounds

Per-Eric

  • expand the smj typos list
  • add missing smj words
  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list
  • finish with the compounding tags to adjectives

Saara

  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
    • not done
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
    • not done

Sjur

  • document the AppleScript testing tool
    • expanded the present documentation, still needs more.
  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta
    • not done
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
    • not done
  • ä/æ in smj speller
    • not done
  • work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
    • not done
  • plan the rest of the project period
    • major milestones set, needs more details
  • fix sme twol bug (#460), meeting Thursday at 9 AM
    • done
  • fix bug 458
    • done
  • bug Kåre Tjikkom about the smj correct document
    • done and received
  • fix bugs!
    • done some, reported others
  • other tasks:
    • refined the speller test bench more
    • compiled new spellers
    • reran self-test - the test itself contains errors, and needs to be cleaned

Thomas

  • work with compounding
    • finished
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
    • not done
  • ä/æ in smj speller
    • not done
  • fix sme twol bug (#460), meeting Thursday at 9 AM
    • done
  • fix bugs!
    • worked

Tomi

  • make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
  • add Hunspell data generation/conversion
  • fix bug 484
  • fix bugs!

Trond

  • update the smj proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
    • No smj work
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
    • Not done
  • add sma texts to the corpus repository
    • Not done
  • ä/æ in smj speller
    • Not done
  • fix sme twol bug (#460), meeting Thursday at 9 AM
    • The bug is still open, but significant progress has been made. We now await test results, and should actually rather close it, and take eventual upcoming errors as new bugs. - Closed during the meeting.
  • fix bug 458
    • Closed.
  • fix bugs!.

3. Documentation

TODO:

  • add semi-automatic updates of fixed and open issues to README files ( Børre)

4. Corpus gathering

We received the correct-marked corpus from Kåre. Some of the errors identified are non-orthographic: morphosyntactic or lexical. Either we remove those corrections, or we introduce other markup to differentiate the types (and ignore non-orthographic errors in the speller tests). 

  wrong§correct   - orthographic              leif§feil
{wrong}£{correct} - morphosyntactic           {mun muitalat}£{mun muitalan}
  wrong€correct   - lexical/terminological    guossodimieddne€biebbmoieddne

The corresponding xml should look like: 

<error type="ort" correct="feil">leif</error>
<error type="synt" correct="mun muitalan">mun muitalat</error>
<error type="lex" correct="biebbmoieddne">guossodimieddne</error>

Decision: processing of the above markup will be implemented for future use, but it will not be used in the actual markup yet. Non-orthographic correction will be removed from our present correct documents, to avoid noise in the speller tests.

TODO:

  • add sma Bible texts to the corpus repository (Trond)
  • bug Kåre Tjikkom about the smj correct document (Sjur)
    • done, received, very useful, but we could use even more.
  • add correct type differentiation to XSL processing (Saara)
  • add correct type differentiation to ccat (Tomi)

5. Corpus infrastructure

Nothing.

6. Infrastructure

Nothing.

7. Linguistics

North Sámi

Fixed a long-standing bug last week: )

TODO:

  • lexicalise actio compounds. Example: vuolggasadji vs. vuolginsadji ( Maaren)
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  • fix twol bug (Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
    • done!
  • add the sme place names from Finland (Ilona)
    • still working

Lule Sámi

smj propernoun bug issue: procedure

  1. convert from common base (which means sme base)
    1. Words not convertable should be added to separate smj lexicon, and words that should not be converted from sme sme should be moved to non-convert lexicon in sme???
  2. send to smj morphology

The original todo was to correct the smj morphology. Current test shows weaknesses in both camps:

  • conversion errors
  • words that should not have been converten
  • missing smj-unique names
  • errors in the morphology

Testing procedures:

  • analyse baseforms (as for sme)
  • generate a couple of caseforms from the baseforms, and inspect result

Suggestion: Let us first analyse the proper noun base forms for Lule Sámi, and thereafter look at the morphology.

TODO:

  • refine smj proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt ( Thomas, Trond)
  • ä/æ in speller, see bug report #411 (Tomi, Sjur)
  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list, but check against the pdf original where in doubt (Per-Eric)
  • add compounding tags to:
    • nouns (Thomas)
      • finished
    • adjs (Per-Eric)
      • finished

8. Name lexicon infrastructure

This sub-project needs to get up and running soon. Mainly Sjur's task.

Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in this meeting memo.

TODO:

  1. fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
  2. finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
  3. test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  4. make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
  5. convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files ( Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
  6. implement data synchronisation between risten.no and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
  7. start to use the xml file as source file
  8. clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, Maaren, linguists)
  9. merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
  10. publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
  11. add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
  12. add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils ( linguists)

9. Spellers

OOo spellers

TODO:

  • add Hunspell data conversion (Tomi)

Testing

Spelling Error Markup

See discussion above under the smj discussion.

TODO:

  • Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (Saara)
  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original ( Børre)

Automated testing

cat gt/doc/proof/spelling/testing/selftest-pl-sme-20070909.xml | grep \
'<original>' | cut -d">" -f2 | cut -d"<" -f1 | \
lookup -flags mbTT -utf8 gt/sme/bin/sme.fst | grep '\?' | cut -f1 | wc -l

Lex test of the lule-specific words. Three were not recognised: 

Sálatduottar    Sálatduottar    +?
Várjjat Várjjat +?
Fatjatj Fatjatj +?

Abbreviations are currectly printed twice if they should be followed by a full stop - once with and once without the full stop. - Fixed during the meeting.

TODO:

  • document the AppleScript testing tool (Sjur)
    • enhanced, not finished
  • document the testing procedures (Sjur)

Lexicon conversion to the PLX format

TODO:

  • fix bug 484 (Tomi)
  • fix bug 458 (Trond, Sjur, Tomi)
    • done

New public beta

Delayed till the majority of the present bugs are fixed. The twolc bug is the major stopper, as well as 484 and 458.

Update: twolc error fixed, as well as 458.

10. Other

Corpus contracts

TODO:

  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta ( Sjur)

Bug fixing

When fixing bugs, record the version number containing the fix in the Bugzilla bug report, such that for each bug, we know exactly when it should have been fixed, in what file(s) and what version.

56 open Divvun/Disamb bugs (25 of these 56 are speller-related bugs, 31 are general bugs), and 23 risten.no bugs

Project meeting

We'll meet in September, 24-28, in Tromsø to work on the hardest remaining issues.

11. Next meeting, closing

The next meeting is 17.9.2007, 09: 30 Norwegian time.

The meeting was closed at 11: 32 (but it included a lot of regular work as well).

Appendix - task lists for the next week

Boerre

  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
  • add semi-automatic updates of fixed and open issues to README files
  • fix bugs!

Ilona

  • lexicalise missing words
  • add sme names from FIN
  • make smn propernoun-list

Maaren

  • lexicalise actio compounds

Per-Eric

  • expand the smj typos list
  • add missing smj words
  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list

Saara

  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
  • add correct type differentiation to XSL processing - bug 504

Sjur

  • document the AppleScript testing tool
  • document the testing procedures
  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
  • ä/æ in smj speller
  • work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
  • plan the rest of the project period
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
  • ä/æ in smj speller
  • fix bugs!

Tomi

  • make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
  • add Hunspell data generation/conversion
  • fix bug 484
  • add correct type differentiation to ccat - bug 505
  • fix bugs!

Trond

  • update the smj proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
  • add sma texts to the corpus repository
  • ä/æ in smj speller
  • fix bugs!.