Meeting_2007-09-17

Meeting setup

  • Date: 17.9.2007
  • Time: 09.30 Norw. time
  • Place: Internet
  • Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat/Skype

Agenda

  1. Opening, agenda review
  2. Reviewing the task list from last week
  3. Documentation - divvun.no
  4. Corpus gathering
  5. Corpus infrastructure
  6. Infrastructure
  7. Linguistics
  8. name lexicon infrastructure
  9. Spellers
  10. Other issues
  11. Summary, task lists
  12. Closing

1. Opening, agenda review, participants

Opened at 09: 37.

Present: Børre, Ilona, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi

Absent: Per-Eric, Trond

Agenda accepted as is.

2. Updated task status since last meeting

Børre

  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
    • working
  • add semi-automatic updates of fixed and open issues to README files
    • not done
  • fix bugs!

Ilona

  • lexicalise missing words
    • Well, an endless work. Started looking at a missing-list made from all Aššu files.
  • add sme names from FIN
    • Done
  • make smn propernoun-list
    • Done.
  • There are still sms-names that should be maybe added somewhere.
    • Not done, yet. - They should be added in the same way as smn names (I know... Trond was just cursing the ortography the last time we discussed it - : ) )

Maaren

  • lexicalise actio compounds

Per-Eric

  • expand the smj typos list
  • add missing smj words
  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list

Saara

  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
    • not done
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
    • not done
  • add correct type differentiation to XSL processing - bug 504
    • not done
  • other:
    • fixed/extended speller test result processing to cope with the regression test

Sjur

  • document the AppleScript testing tool
    • not done
  • document the testing procedures
    • not done
  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta
    • not done
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
    • not done
  • ä/æ in smj speller
    • not done
  • work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
    • not done
  • plan the rest of the project period
    • not finished
  • fix bugs!
    • constantly reviewing the list
  • other:
    • collected data for regression testing
    • added a fourth (and last) type of testing - regression testing
    • some streamlining of the Makefile re speller testing - more to be done

Thomas

  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
    • not done
  • ä/æ in smj speller
    • not done
  • fix bugs!
    • worked with some

Tomi

  • make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
    • not done
  • add Hunspell data generation/conversion
    • not done
  • fix bug 484
    • not fixed
  • add correct type differentiation to ccat - bug 505
    • not done
  • fix bugs!
    • fixed other bugs

Trond

  • update the smj proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
  • add sma texts to the corpus repository
  • ä/æ in smj speller
  • fix bugs!.

3. Documentation

We want to automatise as much as possible when releasing new public betas. Suggestion: we make a fully automatic (Bugzilla-RSS + Bugzilla filter) list of all fixed bugs, and a manual summary of the "highlights". Only the highlights get translated into different languages.

TODO:

  • add semi-automatic updates of fixed and open issues to README files ( Børre)
    • not yet

4. Corpus gathering

Nothing new.

TODO:

  • add sma Bible texts to the corpus repository (Trond)
  • add correct type differentiation to XSL processing - bug 504 (Saara)
  • add correct type differentiation to ccat - bug 505 (Tomi)

5. Corpus infrastructure

Nothing.

6. Infrastructure

Nothing.

7. Linguistics

North Sámi

TODO:

  • lexicalise actio compounds. Example: vuolggasadji vs. vuolginsadji ( Maaren)
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
    • add to Bugzilla (Sjur)
  • add the sme place names from Finland (Ilona)
    • done! Well, there are some names, that Ilona couldn't do anything about. Maaren has taken the list of those names and she asks about them. At least some of them are propably spelling errors.

Lule Sámi

smj propernoun bug issue: procedure

  1. convert from common base (which means sme base)
    1. Words not convertable should be added to separate smj lexicon, and words that should not be converted from sme sme should be moved to non-convert lexicon in sme???
  2. send to smj morphology

The original todo was to correct the smj morphology. Current test shows weaknesses in both camps:

  • conversion errors
  • words that should not have been converten
  • missing smj-unique names
  • errors in the morphology

Testing procedures:

  • analyse baseforms (as for sme)
  • generate a couple of caseforms from the baseforms, and inspect result

Suggestion: Let us first analyse the proper noun base forms for Lule Sámi, and thereafter look at the morphology.

TODO:

  • refine smj proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt ( Thomas, Trond)
  • ä/æ in speller, see bug report #411 (Tomi, Sjur)
  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list, but check against the pdf original where in doubt (Per-Eric)

8. Name lexicon infrastructure

This sub-project needs to get up and running soon. Mainly Sjur's task.

Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in this meeting memo.

TODO:

  1. fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
  2. finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
  3. test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  4. make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
  5. convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files ( Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
  6. implement data synchronisation between risten.no and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
  7. start to use the xml file as source file
  8. clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, Maaren, linguists)
  9. merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
  10. publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
  11. add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
  12. add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils ( linguists)

9. Spellers

OOo spellers

Børre will try to help out on this, as there are quite a few existing bugs waiting to be solved by Tomi.

TODO:

  • add Hunspell data conversion (Tomi, Børre)

Testing

Spelling Error Markup

TODO:

  • Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (Saara)
  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original ( Børre)

Automated testing

We need one more baseform test, one in which all baseforms are run through the nonrec transducer. Such a test will identify all/most errors in the lexicon and errors in the baseform extraction. The remaining errors are then related to speller conversion. 

cat gt/doc/proof/spelling/testing/selftest-pl-sme-20070909.xml | grep \
'<original>' | cut -d">" -f2 | cut -d"<" -f1 | lookup -flags mbTT \
-utf8 gt/sme/bin/sme.fst | grep '\?' | cut -f1 | wc -l

Lex test of the lule-specific words. Three were not recognised: 

Sálatduottar    Sálatduottar    +?
Várjjat Várjjat +?
Fatjatj Fatjatj +?

Abbreviations are currectly printed twice if they should be followed by a full stop - once with and once without the full stop. - Fixed during the meeting.

TODO:

  • document the AppleScript testing tool (Sjur)
  • document the testing procedures (Sjur)
  • add baseform transducer test (Sjur)

Lexicon conversion to the PLX format

Several smj bugs discovered during last week, and added to Bugzilla: 495, 503, 509, 512. General bugs as well: 421, 486.

Clitics: 

 +Clt+ge:#ge ENDLEX ;
 +Clt+ge:#k ENDLEX ;

 +Clt+gen:#gen ENDLEX ;
 +Clt+ga:#ga ENDLEX ;

The first two are variants of the same clitic, where the variation is governed by twolc rules. It needs to be generated as part of the PLX generation.

The two other ones are separate clitics, and do not vary according to any rules. They can thus be put in a separate PLX file to save space and time during compilation. This solution requires that we give them PLX codes that will prevent them from combining with word forms already outfitted with the first clitic. Tomi will look into this, and report back. The issue may require discussion with Polderland (ie a new subclass tag).

TODO:

  • fix PLX-related bugs (Tomi)
  • find a solution for smj clitics (Tomi)

New public beta

Delayed till the majority of the present bugs are fixed. - We will evaluate the situation on Wednesday 19. after lunch, and release a new speller on Friday if smj is good enough (sme already is).

10. Other

Corpus contracts

Delayed till after final release.

TODO:

  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta ( Sjur)

Bug fixing

When fixing bugs, record the version number containing the fix in the Bugzilla bug report, such that for each bug, we know exactly when it should have been fixed, in what file(s) and what version.

62 open Divvun/Disamb bugs (32 of these 56 are speller-related bugs, 30 are general bugs), and 23 risten.no bugs

Project meeting

We'll meet in September, 24-28, in Tromsø to work on the hardest remaining issues.

Hotel rooms: Ilona sun-wed, Tomi sun-fri.

TODO:

  • reserve meeting room (Thomas)
  • reserve lunch mon-fri, invoice to SD (Børre)
  • book hotel rooms (Sjur)

11. Next meeting, closing

The next meeting is 1.10.2007, 09: 30 Norwegian time.

The meeting was closed at 10: 49.

Appendix - task lists for the next week

Boerre

  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
  • add semi-automatic updates of fixed and open issues to README files
  • order lunch mon-fri for the next gathering in Tromsø, invoice to SD
  • help Tomi with adding Hunspell data generation/conversion
  • fix bugs!

Ilona

  • lexicalise missing words
  • make sms propernoun-list
  • Change NIILLAS-names to ANAR or DUORTNUS.

Maaren

  • lexicalise actio compounds

Per-Eric

  • expand the smj typos list
  • add missing smj words
  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list
  • finish with the compounding tags to adjectives

Saara

  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
  • add correct type differentiation to XSL processing - bug 504

Sjur

  • document the AppleScript testing tool
  • document the testing procedures
  • add baseform transducer test
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o - add it to Bugzilla
  • ä/æ in smj speller
  • work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
  • plan the rest of the project period
  • book hotel rooms for the next gathering in Tromsø
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
  • ä/æ in smj speller
  • reserve meeting room for the next gathering in Tromsø
  • fix bugs!

Tomi

  • make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
  • add Hunspell data generation/conversion
  • fix PLX conversion bugs
  • add correct type differentiation to ccat - bug 505
  • find a solution for smj clitics
  • fix bugs!

Trond

  • update the smj proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
  • add sma texts to the corpus repository
  • ä/æ in smj speller
  • fix bugs!.