Meeting_2009-05-18

Meeting setup

  • Date: 18.5.2009
  • Time: 09.30 Norw. time
  • Place: Internet
  • Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat

Agenda

Cf. one of the following, depending on context:

  • the upper bar of the SEE window (provided you use the JSPWiki syntax mode)
  • the TOC in Forrest-rendered output, like HTML and PDF

Opening, agenda review, participants

Opened at 10: 03.

Present: Børre, Ciprian, David, Jovsset, Maja, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi, Trond

Absent: none

Agenda accepted as is.

Updated task status since last meeting

Børre

  • meeting to coordinate corpus gathering, check routines
    • done
  • improve XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Draw document
    • working
  • Implement new version of giellatekno front page without ToC
    • not done
  • gt/Makefile remake
    • not done
  • Set up the apache server for the risten.no beta on the linux box + Xserve.
    • not done
  • make Mac screencasts of using our tools. Suggestion: use Copernicus - it is free
    • not done
  • fix bugs!

Ciprian

  • try to make a schema/dtd description of the lexC-file (experiment with Romanian)
    • todo (low priority)
  • get informed about eXist and test the risten.no properly
    • ongoing (high priority)
  • add an Oahpa clock excercise
    • todo (normal priority)
  • make-remake: analyse the structure/dependencies of the files
    • ongoing (normal priority)
  • restructure and clean the script catalogue, using subdirs
    • ongoing (normal priority)
  • check the processing of new corpus documents (error logging during conversion, conversion quality, documentation, etc.)
    • todo (low priority)
  • make the pipeline of StarDict dictionary generation running on the Mac
    • todo (low prioriy)
  • continue the search and testing of an appropriate tool for lexicon working (no xml-file editing via text editors!)
    • ongoing (normal priority): why not use eXist for that?
  • incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob
    • todo
  • continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary
    • ongoing
  • check the possible bug in the sma: nob-swe dictionary
    • todo
  • fix the bug with the string length in the popup window (sma: nob)
    • todo
  • try to reduce the dict-size on mac: experiment with xPointer, etc.
    • todo
  • fix bugs!
    • todo

David

  • meeting to coordinate corpus gathering, check routines
  • normativity meeting (with Jovsset, Maja, Thomas)
    • not done
  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with Maja, Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
    • not done
  • continue gathering sma corpus texts
    • ongoing
  • contact the sami radio about older manuscrips after the election to the sami parlament (May 17)
    • to do this week
  • send contract to Anne-Grethe Bientie
    • task transfered to Maja
  • stay in contact with Š-blađđi about south saami texts sma adjectives
    • not done
  • meeting to coordinate discussions with Pia Persson with Jovsset, Maja
    • Done
  • talk to Lajla Mattsson Magga about the dictionary
    • not done
  • fill in all contact regarding corpus gathering in the document
    • started, not yet completed
  • add all of my known normativity issues into the file used for collecting them
    • not done

Jovsset

  • meeting to coordinate corpus gathering, check routines
  • normativity meeting (with David, Maja, Thomas)
  • Find a suitable infrastructure for the distribution of the CD version. Possible through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi.
  • Write installation instructions for word 2003
  • Write a formal letter to Davvi Girji about the right to use their corpus and the possibility for Davvi Girji to use the language technology of the Divvun project regarding electronic dictionaries.

Per-Eric

  • Try to find more smj texts
  • work with missing lists
  • fix bugs!

Maja

  • normativity meeting (with David, Jovsset, Thomas)
    • not done
  • meeting to coordinate corpus gathering, check routines
    • done
  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with David, Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  • more work on sma adjectives
    • done - almost finnished
  • Send Lena Kappfjell and Harald Gaski a contract
    • waiting to receive the contracts from Åsta Vangberg, she ha send some of the contracts, but not all, she will send the rest of them as soon as possible
  • Need to start programming- fresh up/learn to program adjektives and verbs

Saara

  • Include Vasta and Sahka in the log
  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)

Sjur

  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with David, Maja, Thomas, Trond)
  • restructure local setup using env variables and a script for automated setup
    • more work, not finished
  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (with Tomi)
    • no time last week
  • make XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document
    • Børre worked on this
  • continue to write a proofing API & implementation specification
    • nothing done, but this should get higher priority now
  • name db/risten.no
    • to be done (tbd)
  • follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652
    • tbd
  • InDesign documentation
    • tbd
  • Contact Davvi Girji about cooperation on electronic dictionaries
    • Jovsset had a meeting with them last week about this
  • subcontractor work for sma proofing tools
    • tbd
  • support and maintenance contract for sme and smj, MS+Adobe tools
    • tbd
  • Sámi languages as part of Norsk språkbank
    • tbd
  • leaflet: add InDesign text
    • tbd
  • set up risten.no on eXist/XServe (as a beta version site)
    • tbd
  • set up required infra for smenob on risten.no/XServe
    • tbd
  • sma umlaut / derivation work
    • tbd
  • send list of hotel guests in Trondheim to the travel agency
    • tbd
  • announce the availability of our repository on relevant linguistic lists
    • tbd
  • fix bugs!
  • other things:
    • NoDaLiDa in Odense:
      • tried to compile and install the HFST tools on my Mac - we managed twolc and the core HFST library, but several tools are still left to be done
      • compiled bokmål twolc with HFST tools

Thomas

  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with David, Maja, Sjur, Trond)
  • normativity meeting (with David, Jovsset, Maja)
    • not yet
  • sma umlaut / derivation work
    • some done
  • sma adjectives
    • worked a lot with Majja
  • finish reformulating the proper noun grammar like the verbs
    • not yet
  • fix bugs!
    • only filed new bugs!

Tomi

  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (with Sjur)
    • modified Makefile a bit, but didn't commit
  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion
    • not done
  • fix double hyphen bugs
    • not done
  • fix PL hyphenator bugs
    • not done
  • fix PL and Hunspell conversion bugs
    • not done
  • infrastructure remake
    • not done
  • sma umlaut / derivation work
    • not done
  • fix bugs!
  • other
    • been ill

Trond

  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with David, Maja, Sjur, Thomas)
    • This week
  • Register oahpa.no
    • Not done
  • Check for IP numbers in the log
    • Not done
  • tts startup (with Sjur)
    • Postponed
  • sma umlaut / derivation work
    • Much sma work, but not this.
  • fix bugs!.

Oahpa!

A lot of feedback at the NoDaLiDa conference, especially on the use of speller technology. Interest in an Icelanding version.

Meeting memos can be found at http://giellatekno.uit.no/ped/index.html#Meeting+memos

TODO

  • Register oahpa.no (Trond)
  • Check for IP numbers in the log (Trond)

Corpus gathering

Maja has called a couple of people ( Nora Bransfjell, Åsta Vangberg, Anne-Lise Dunfjeld), they will send contracts to us. She will also send contracts to Ella Holm Bull, Bierna Bientie, Anne Grete Bientie

David has sent contracts to Sakka Nejne, Sara Aira Fjellström and the Sami School Board concerning the books: Ovmese Vaajesh and Sanna:Saemien-nïejte Johke-mehkeste. What about the Veaksehke Maarja book? David will send contract.

David has scanned the books Åarjelsaemien 1 and 2 leaving 3,4 and 5 to scan. Not yet completed proofreading the OCR: ed files.

Joseph has sent a formal letter from the Sami parliament to Gerd Persson regarding the possibility to incorperate her translation of the book Gåessie jeatjebh åerieminie to our corpus.

David has added more web texts from the swedish Sami Parlaments web page.

David has talked to Per-Stefan Labba at Saemien Ööhpehtimmiejarnge in Jokkmokk who gave permission to use the south sami version of Gulahalan. The book is not yet published, but the manuscript is ready.

TODO:

  • continue gathering sma corpus texts (David, Jovsset, Maja)
    • older sámi radio texts would be very welcome as well (David)
    • Maja: NRK Nord-Trøndelag has a lot of recordings in sma, possibly also manuscripts - we should call them. We should wait, because I think they haven´t any manuscripts. We should talk to the south-sámi journalisth in NRK Sámeradio about manuskripts. We have allready Anna Jacobsen manuscripts, perhaps Anna Granefjell do have some? Sig-Britt Pärsson? Ristin Pärsson? Kjell Roger Appfjell? (Maja)
    • call Fylkesmannen i Nordland about sma material (Maja)
    • Š-bláđđi has some articles in sma, we should ask for permission to use it ( David)
      • David has talked to them, will make a contract with them and Iđut
    • follow up on the sma Bible translations (David)
    • the Gun Utsi book is almost there - one contract missing (Jovsset)
  • other contacts: Lena Davidsson, daughter to Lars-Matto Tuolja
  • discuss infra improvements for corpus rep administration (Børre, Ciprian)
    • delayed till we are done with the gt/Makefile improvements
  • meeting to coordinate corpus gathering, check routines ( Børre, David, Jovsset, Maja)
    • done

Promoting Divvun

TODO:

  • poster, A4 and CD's to the language centre workers' annual meeting in Tromsø ( Jovsset, Sjur, Trond)
  • make leaflet to inform about the project (Jovsset, David)
    • add InDesign text (Sjur)
    • make XSL script to transform Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document ( Børre, Sjur)
  • distribute CD version through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. Gaaltije in Östersund for example. ( Leif Åge, Jovsset, David)
    • make a list of contact persons, make sure they have CD's
  • make a Mac screencast of using our tools (Børre)
    • delayed until further notice

Future plans, directions and ideas

See a separate document in plan/strat/5year.jspwiki.

Northern areas project

TODO:

  • Attend a beginners' course in Russian (priority: the alphabet!) near you..
  • Keep potential key personel alert
  • To a certain extent plan for The Thing

Infrastructure

To accomodate future enhancements in different directions (in rough order of importance):

  1. test bench for all parts of our language technology efforts
    1. test bench enhanced, but not yet complet
  2. set up the Leopard Server features for collaborative support:
    1. permanent chat rooms
    2. stored (and indexed) chat transcripts of the chat rooms
    3. iCal server / group calendars
    4. wiki
  3. wiki? on G5 (is part of Leopard Server) or other web-based documentation
  4. improve Forrest stability and i18n support ( the divvun crashes)
    1. Sjur has been working on better i18n and pdf rendering
    2. Børre has some ideas for getting back to serving static html files
  5. reorganise the documentation:
    1. differ between target groups
    2. get better grouping
    3. decide what to write in forrest and what in wiki (cf. Apertium and http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/apertium/) for a similar split)
    4. update/add missing parts
  6. migrate lexc lexicons to XML, splitting the task
    1. Name lexica (the Name project)
    2. Dictionaries (already in XML, task is to integrate them)
    3. At least migrate the lexc open POSes (Komi as a pilot case)
  7. change the look of the documentation web
  8. use HFST as alternative to XFST
  9. corpus content moved to Max Planck repositories? Norsk språkbank?
  10. update infrastructure to allow content-restricted spellers for special target groups

TODO:

  • restructure the local setup using environmental variables and a script for automated setup (Sjur)
    • ready for early testing (Ciprian, Børre)
  • restructure and clean the script catalogue, using subdirs to categorise the scripts (Ciprian)
  • infrastructure remake: ( Børre, Ciprian, Saara, Sjur, Tomi, Trond)
    • more modularised make / build infra (prepare for smn, sms, sjd, others)
    • merge gt, kt and st into one
    • modularised preprocess and spellrelax
    • alternatives to make:
  • make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
    • delayed until we have restructured the make/build process
  • define and document testing routines (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
    • delayed until we have restructured the make/build process
  • test iCal Server (on G5) (Børre)
  • remove TOC from the giellatekno home page by using dispatcher (Trond)

Linguistics

We need a more fine-grained system for denoting morphological boundaries. Here's what Sjur suggests:

  1. word boundary:
    1. (# makes .#. unusable in twolc)
  2. inflection: <, >
  3. compound-like inflection: <#, #> (cf -gujmie) (lexc %<#, #%>)
  4. derivation: «, »
  5. compound-like derivation: «#, #» (cf -aktig, -skap in nob, swe, etc)
  6. clitica: ‹, › - muorak and muorage but only muorasge and not muorask
  7. opaque compounds (bringebær): *#, #* - * on the side of the opaque part

The multichar sequences should be defined as Multichar_Symbols.

It might be possible to distinguish, but do we need them?

the suffix -goahti- behaves:

  • morphologically like a compound
  • semantically like a closed-class word (begin, often, still, ...)
  • what is bringe#bær? A compound?

Motivation for the new border symbols:

  • compound-like inflection and derivation should be hyphenated as compounds, although regular inflection and hyphenation usually is completely opaque wrt hyphenation.
  • we don't want to use the regular word boundary symbol for this purpose, since that can conflict with other use cases (like IR & indexing, where you want to index both the actual word form, the stem, and possibly substems as long as the stemming is transparent)
  • on the contrary, a richer set of border symbols can be used to enhance e.g. IR - by coding bringeber as bringe*#ber we know that the compound is opaque and should not be split, but at the same time we know that the last part is the recognisable word ber, which can be useful for text classification and building semantic relationships - we can automatically deduce that bringebær is a bær.
  • the regular affix boundaries have turned out to be useful in the making of Hunspell speller files (although the distiction between inflection and derivation was in the end not useful). The borders also make it easier to bind certain two-level rules to the correct contexts.

The guiding principle behind the symbols is that they provide more information in the transducer, and it is easy to discard the information later. The opposite is not true. Also, there is relatively little work involved in adding the symbols.

North Sámi

(nothing new, see proofing bugs below)

Lule Sámi

(nothing new, see proofing bugs below)

South Sámi

Maja, Thomas have worked a lot on adjectives. There are still many questions regarding the organisation of adjectives. The details will be discussed in the meeting tomorrow.

Adj->verb derivations is the next topic. Verb -> adj -derivations (some) already written in, tentatively. This topic probably needs more consideration than A -> V.

TODO:

  • reformulate the proper noun grammar according to the Trondheim discussions ( David, Maja, Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  • update the normativity issues document for the SGL/SGM (David with Maja, Sjur)
    • placenames (Maja)
    • other issues
  • finish the umlaut / derivation work (Thomas, Sjur, Tomi)
  • adjectives (Maja with David, Thomas, Trond, Sjur)
    • two competing naming conventions of continuation lexicons
      • One naming goes ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE
      • One follows the sme convention of naming key adjectives
      • There are duplicate lexica
    • The comparative issue open here and there
      • The ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE lexica now go to EVENCOMP and ODDCOMP only.
  • normativity meeting (David, Jovsset, Maja, Thomas)
    • routines
    • normativity document
    • unregulated place names
  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (David, Maja, Sjur, Thomas, Trond)

Name lexicon/risten.no infrastructure

Tomi has played with couchdb as a replacement for eXist in risten.no and general dictionary-related work. Seems much lighter and easier to work with.

Instead of building our own webforms and back-end update scripts, use XForms with a premade connection to our xml db. Orbeon XForms is such a tool (open source).

From the meeting with the terminology and IT teams last week:

  • no major rework on the present search interface now
  • no work on the editing section; instead:
  • add existing lists of sanctioned terminology as separate term entities
  • add a dictionary if we can make one with sufficient quality

This means the following tasks:

  • find already approved lists, in paper or electronic form (term team)
  • convert paper lists to electronic lists (term team)
  • convert lists to standard XML (Sjur, Tomi)
  • add prepared lists to risten.no (Sjur, Tomi)

TODO:

  1. fix i18n bug in risten.no/G5 (so they will work without the proper locale request) (Sjur)
  2. fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
  3. finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
  4. test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  5. make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
  6. convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files ( Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
  7. implement data synchronisation between risten.no and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
  8. start to use the xml file as source file
  9. clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, linguists)
  10. merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
  11. publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
  12. add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
  13. add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils ( linguists)

Dictionaries

Nothing new, working hard on Kildin Sámi.

TODO:

  • Set up the apache server for the risten.no beta on the linux box + Xserve. ( Børre)
  • set up risten.no on eXist/XServe (as a beta version site) (Sjur)
  • set up required infra for smenob on risten.no/XServe (Sjur)
  • Continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
  • end user documentation (how to download and install) (Ciprian, Trond)
  • Contact Davvi Girji about cooperation on electronic dictionaries ( Sjur)

Proofing tools

HFST-based proofing tools

  • there is a big interest in doing this at the Helsinki group (8-10 persons)
  • weighted twolc and lexc

The tools do not compile easily on macs. We have a version of Htwolc on Sjurs mac, but nothing on Hlexc.

There is hope that HFST-based spellers can completely replace Hunspell in the long run. But there is a lot of work needed before we are there.

Links:

TODO:

  • send feedback to the HFST team about our mac experience (Sjur)
  • start to write an API specification, and an implementation specification ( Sjur)

Hunspell

Børre has released beta7, with working clitics, negation verb and copula.

Testing

Spelling Error Markup

TODO:

  • Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (Saara)
  • test new and nested error markup (Sjur)
    • nesting still needs to be tested, depends on new ccat feature

Speller testing

TODO:

  • test the error type selection feature in ccat (Sjur)
  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (Sjur, Tomi)
  • add South Sámi DLL's to the svn repository (Sjur)

Testing open-source Norwegian spellers

Sjur has invited the open-source group to test their spell-checker using our test bench. The response has been positive, we'll see what happens.

We should go to their developer meetings, and present our work and how to work with language technology.

Speller bugs

List of bugs returned from Polderland:

  • 621
  • 630
  • 652
  • 656
  • 676

Open issues based on test results:

sme

Version: Davvisámi, version 1.1, 2008-12-17

  • 399 - missing numerals (plural forms) - OPEN
  • 425 - X not recognized; single letters were left out - still OPEN
  • 435 - roman numbers - inflection of single letter numbers rejected, as well as some complex numbers (but is ok in smj) - still OPEN
    • we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file
  • 595 - prefix+name without hyphen (ovdaLot instead of ovda-Lot) - still OPEN
  • 603 - suomabealdi accepted - still OPEN
  • 606 - compound-tags LEXICON VUOHTA - still OPEN
  • 613 - short gen. as second compound part - still OPEN
  • 619 - numerals and pronouns to NAMÁK and SASJ fails - vihttasoarttat remaining - still OPEN
  • 629 - a taking part in compounding without hyphen - still OPEN
    • only open case has word A-finálaid compounded
  • 642 - noun/adj/proper + hyphen + ain - FIXED
  • 647 - numerals+NOUN - still OPEN, open case has uppercase letters
  • 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still OPEN
  • 709 - REGRESSION: sámedikkeválga accepted
  • 728 - vowel shortening GenCmp+Left-tagged - still OPEN
  • 779 - caseforms of pronoun okatahat - OPEN
  • 785 - does not recognize alphabet-abbr+noun

smj

Version: Julevsáme, version 1.1, 2008-12-17

  • 435 - roman number - single letter numbers now recognised
    • we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file
    • please note that inflection of single letter numerals is fine in smj, as opposed to sme
  • 482 - REGRESSION: polardutkamin not recognized
  • 556 - REGRESSION: non-existent word accepted
  • 594 - lågenanguoktáj not recognized - OPEN
  • 595 - prefix+name as split comp without hyphen - FIXED
  • 596 - C-giellan is not accepted - still OPEN
  • 600 - REGRESSION: Gen+hyph compound
  • 627 - REGRESSION: prefix + hyhpen does not get accepted
  • 647 - numerals+NOUN - still OPEN, open case has uppercase letters
  • 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still OPEN
  • 650 - noun prefix+name compound without hyphen - FIXED
  • 652 - UPPERCASE-typos only get acronym-suggestions - still OPEN
  • 692 - numeral-variants - all but one fixed (gáktsalågenantjuotakta), but still OPEN

TODO:

  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion (Tomi)

Hyphenator bugs

Open issues based on test results :

sme

Lexicon version: Davvisámi, version 1.1, 2008-12-17

  • 468 - Márkomeanu - still OPEN
  • 547 - hyphen in front of vowel: Lotnolasealáhusas - still OPEN
  • 548 - mid syllable hyphenation: Háliidivččen - still OPEN
  • 549 - division without hyph: Váccedettiin - still OPEN

smj

Lexicon version: Julevsáme, version 1.1, 2008-12-17

  • 547 - hyphen in front of vowel: Jienastimnjuolgadusá and Orgánajs - still OPEN
  • 670 - Hard hyphen replaced with soft hyphen: 10-biejvvásattja (the word is not rec.; Bug #711) - still OPEN

TODO:

  • fix PL hyphenator errors (Tomi)

Installer changes

TODO:

  • test InDesign installer (Sjur)

User documentation

TODO:

  • InDesign documentation (Sjur)
    • Norwegian translation received from Davvi Girji

1.2 release

Content:

  • several smj bug fixes
  • lexicalisations
  • InDesign Mac & Win
  • new OOo beta
  • improved installers, at least for Mac, preferably also for Windows

Other

Summer holidays

Person  Dates
Børre 06.07-26.07, 03.08-16.08
Ciprian 13.07.09-17.07.09 ???
Jovsset xx-yy
Maja week: 27-31???
Sjur xx-yy
Thomas 130709-140809 ??
Tomi 28.05-14.06, ??
Trond 21.05-02.06. (travel), 29.06-yy ?? (first 3 july weeks) + before or after

South Sámi seminar follow-up

David sent the list to Sjur, who will have a look, and forward it to the travel agency.

Travelling plans in the coming months

  • Seminar (Forskarforbundet) 21.5-28.5 - Trond
  • NORDTERM 2009: Ontologier og taksonomier, 10-12.6 - Sjur?
  • Nesna conference on sma education and research, especially language
    • link? date? (moved: sometime in September)
    • Maja could go there

Text to speech

To be started relatively soon. June?

TODO:

  • discuss with Biret Ánne (Sjur, Trond)

MT and CAT

These are the next things forward. Two things to do before doing MT/CAT:

  1. Makefile redo
  2. xml transition of lexica

Open source

The repository is properly closed/open now, and the availability of the source code should be announced.

TODO:

  • announce the availability of our repository on relevant linguistic lists ( Sjur)
    • delayed until setup script is ready for perusal

Short NoDaLiDa summary

Proceedings

Strong presense by our teams. A lot of interesting presentations, talks and papers: dependencies used in dictionaries and grammar checkers.

Lexicography article to LexicoNordica?

Background: Trond discussed with Ruth Vadtvedt Fjell about writing an article on Vuosttaš digisánit.

Next meeting, closing

The next meeting is 25.5.2009, 9.30 Norwegian time.

Trond will be away, but potentially available from his foreign location.

The meeting was closed at 11: 45 .

Appendix - task lists for the next five days

Boerre

  • improve XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Draw document
  • Implement new version of giellatekno front page without ToC
  • gt/Makefile remake
  • Set up the apache server for the risten.no beta on the linux box + Xserve.
  • Test the gt setup script
  • fix bugs!

Ciprian

  • testing gtsetup script
  • install eXist from SVN on the G5
  • try to make a schema/dtd description of the lexC-file (experiment with Romanian)
  • get informed about eXist and test the risten.no properly
  • add an Oahpa clock excercise
  • make-remake: analyse the structure/dependencies of the files
  • restructure and clean the script catalogue, using subdirs
  • check the processing of new corpus documents (error logging during conversion, conversion quality, documentation, etc.)
  • make the pipeline of StarDict dictionary generation running on the Mac
  • continue the search and testing of an appropriate tool for lexicon working (no xml-file editing via text editors!)
  • incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob
  • continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary
  • check the possible bug in the sma: nob-swe dictionary
  • fix the bug with the string length in the popup window (sma: nob)
  • try to reduce the dict-size on mac: experiment with xPointer, etc.
  • fix bugs!

David

  • normativity meeting (with Jovsset, Maja, Thomas)
  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with Maja, Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  • continue gathering sma corpus texts
  • contact the sami radio about older manuscrips after the election to the sami parlament (May 17)
  • stay in contact with Š-blađđi about south saami texts
  • talk to Lajla Mattsson Magga about the dictionary
  • fill in all contact regarding corpus gathering in the document
  • add all of my known normativity issues into the file used for collecting them
  • contact Sakka Nejne about contracts already sent and about the book veaksehke Maarja
  • call all students at UMU that might have texts relevant for the corpus
  • call Siri Kappfjell Päiviö, Ajlin Jonassen Kråik and Helene Blind Brandsfjell about the manuscript to the south sami version of Gulahalan.

Jovsset

  • poster, A4 and CD's to the language centre workers' annual meeting in Tromsø
  • meeting to coordinate corpus gathering, check routines
  • normativity meeting (with David, Maja, Thomas)
  • Find a suitable infrastructure for the distribution of the CD version. Possible through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi.
  • Write installation instructions for word 2003

Per-Eric

  • Try to find more smj texts
  • work with missing lists
  • fix bugs!

Maja

  • normativity meeting (with David, Jovsset, Thomas)
  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with David, Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  • more work on sma adjectives
  • Send Lena Kappfjell and Harald Gaski a contract
  • Need to start programming- fresh up/learn to program adjektives and verbs
  • need to get ove

Saara

  • Include Vasta and Sahka in the log
  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)

Sjur

  • send feedback to the HFST team about our mac experience
  • poster, A4 and CD's to the language centre workers' annual meeting in Tromsø
  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with David, Maja, Thomas, Trond)
  • restructure local setup using env variables and a script for automated setup
  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (with Tomi)
  • make XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document
  • continue to write a proofing API & implementation specification
  • name db/risten.no
  • follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652
  • InDesign documentation
  • Contact Davvi Girji about cooperation on electronic dictionaries
  • subcontractor work for sma proofing tools
  • support and maintenance contract for sme and smj, MS+Adobe tools
  • Sámi languages as part of Norsk språkbank
  • leaflet: add InDesign text
  • set up risten.no on eXist/XServe (as a beta version site)
  • set up required infra for smenob on risten.no/XServe
  • sma umlaut / derivation work
  • send list of hotel guests in Trondheim to the travel agency
  • announce the availability of our repository on relevant linguistic lists
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with David, Maja, Sjur, Trond)
  • normativity meeting (with David, Jovsset, Maja)
  • sma adjectives
  • finish reformulating the proper noun grammar like the verbs
  • fix bugs!

Tomi

  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (with Sjur)
  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion
  • fix double hyphen bugs
  • fix PL hyphenator bugs
  • fix PL and Hunspell conversion bugs
  • infrastructure remake
  • sma umlaut / derivation work
  • fix bugs!

Trond

  • poster, A4 and CD's to the language centre workers' annual meeting in Tromsø
  • adjective meeting Tuesday 19.5 at 12 AM (with David, Maja, Sjur, Thomas)
  • Investigate LexicoNordica article
  • Infrastructure remake work (with the usual gang)
  • tts startup (with Sjur)
  • sma umlaut / derivation work
  • fix bugs!.