Meeting_2009-10-19

Meeting setup

  • Date: 19.10.2009
  • Time: 09.30 Norw. time
  • Place: Internet
  • Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat

Agenda

Cf. one of the following, depending on context:

  • the upper bar of the SEE window (provided you use the JSPWiki syntax mode)
  • the TOC in Forrest-rendered output, like HTML and PDF

Opening, agenda review, participants

Opened at 09: 54.

Present: Børre, Ciprian, Maja, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi, Trond

Absent: none

Agenda accepted as is.

Updated task status since last meeting

Børre

  • static i18n divvun site
    • online and multilingual, but not able to change language.
  • order Snow Leopard for the XServe
    • done
  • phase out the G5, use the XServe as our web server instead
    • The G5 crashed twice in a day last week, so it has been retired now and our xserve has taken on the G5's duties
  • upgrade the XServe to Snow Leopard Server
    • waiting for Snow Leopard server to arrive
  • improve XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Draw document
    • not done
  • gt/Makefile remake
    • nothing done
  • get translations of thank-you letter
    • not done
  • fix bugs!
  • other:
    • began training tesseract to understand North and Lule Sami

Ciprian

  • MT: test Autshumato Alpha version on Windows using Launcher
    • todo
  • MT: make Autshumato run on Mac
    • todo
  • make eXist running with the SLT-DB
    • todo
  • make a schema/dtd description of the lexC-file (experiment with Romanian)
    • ongoing (for Komi)
  • transform sme-lexC files into XML format
    • todo
  • GT web:
    • coloring output of the disambiguation
      • ongoing
    • add a tree visualizer for the dependency trees
      • todo
  • Bodø Oahpa:
    • generalize for semantic classes and pos
    • implement a login mechanism
    • implement a upload data mechanism
    • setup the Bodø version on victorio
      • todo
  • Sandbox Oahpa:
    • setup the Sandbox version on victorio
      • ongoing (http: //gtsvn.uit.no/sb_oahpa): leksa and numra should work now
  • Running Oahpa:
    • add an Oahpa clock and date excercise (cf. Numra)
    • Generate fin/xml/{nouns|verbs|adjectives}.xml, and implement the new Leksa dropdown menu
      • todo
  • Lovozero Oahpa:
    • install MySQL and Django on Lene and/or Trond machine
    • implement a simple Leksa version for
      • MySQL, Python, and Django is installed on Trond 'm machine: to check
  • KomEngFin:
    • arrange a meeting with Trond and Jaska about the basic workflow with dictionary and automata development
    • compile only one version of dictionary and use css for user preferences
    • generate the first StarDict version of komeng and komfin dictionary
    • test the automatic sorting by Komi alphabet in xsl (as discussed with Trond)
      • worked on gt_dict transformation of komfineng
  • SmeNob:
    • the StarDict on Windows: try the HTML-plugin
    • try to reduce the dict-size on mac: experiment with xPointer, etc.
    • incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob
      • todo
  • SmaNobSwe:
    • extend the smanobswe dictionary
    • check all bug in the sma: nob-swe dictionary
    • fix the bug with the string length in the popup window (sma: nob)
      • todo
  • SmjNob:
    • start working at a Lule-Sami based on Bruce Moren's data
      • todo
  • SjdRus:
    • continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary, next internal deadline is the lexicography workshop in November 2009 in Tromsø
      • todo
  • Corpus:
    • check the processing of new corpus documents (error logging during conversion, conversion quality, documentation, etc.)
      • todo

Maja

  • Prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM
    • to do
  • more work on sma adjectives and the South Sámi speller
    • want to work over the South Sámi speller, but need some directions ho to do it/start
  • contact Risten Turi Aleksandersen about book signature follow-up from Joseph
    • will do again, got e: mail from Josseph
  • contact authors of sma aticles in 9-10 eds. of the yearbook Åarjel-saemieh
    • to do, made a list of authors
  • work with missing lists
    • ok, to do

Sjur

  • @Barents: plan a meeting/seminar with potential cooperation partners
  • @Barents: plan for The Real Thing
  • @TTS: start public tender process
  • make Leif Åge send out CD's to distribution points
  • start Nordplus Sprog project
  • send eXist log files to Ciprian
  • finalise formal letter to Laila Mattsson-Magga with Maja
  • Write a formal letter to Davvi girji about electronic dictionaries
  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (with Tomi)
    • did a lot of work to make it happen, but something broke. Still, I was able to deliver the first pre-alpha proofing tools for MS Office 2004
  • make XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document
  • continue to write a proofing API & implementation specification
    • no substantial work on this last week, but HFST was released (see below)
  • name db/risten.no
  • follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652
  • support and maintenance contract for sme and smj, MS+Adobe tools
  • Sámi languages as part of Norsk språkbank
  • set up risten.no on eXist/XServe (as a beta version site)
  • set up required infra for smenob on risten.no/XServe
  • find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi teaching material now being given out to the schools
  • fix bugs!
  • other things:
    • HFST was released. Downloaded it, compiled and installed, reported bugs and errors. First impression is quite ok, it is roughly as fast as the Xerox tools in lookup (but more testing is needed), compilation times not yet tested. There are some differences in the lookup output, but mostly it looks quite compatible.
    • answered inquiry about minority languages in Sweden
    • planned LexC course, partially with Kimmo Koskenniemi

Thomas

  • prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM
    • some work done
  • sma adjectives
    • some work done
  • Digitalize south saami books
    • some work done
  • finish reformulating the proper noun grammar like the verbs
    • not yet
  • fix bugs!
    • some work done

Tomi

  • add missing Finnish translations in sme/xml/nouns.xml
    • this is done (?)
  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (with Sjur)
    • Sjur did this
  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion
    • not done
  • fix double hyphen bugs
    • not done
  • fix PL hyphenator bugs
    • not done
  • fix PL and Hunspell conversion bugs
    • worked with this one
  • infrastructure remake
    • not done
  • sma umlaut / derivation work
    • not done
  • fix bugs!

Trond

  • add missing Finnish translations in sme/xml/nouns.xml
    • Done. Both nouns, verbs and adjectives now have complete translations and we are ready for a Finnish Leksa-version.
  • Mikogo for Lene and Linda
    • Vergessen.
  • Komi -- Completing the automaton to some state
    • Much done on Komi. Most important milestone: Build a common starting ground within the Komi team. This is now done. Also, all lexicon names are now harmonized, we have a common understanding of the distinction between continuation lexica and POS. The improvement work has started.
  • sma proper noun grammar (with the rest of the sma gang)
    • I have started looking at it. This really is needed, and now, with the alpha in place, we should do it.
  • clock and date for Numra
    • The fst is in place, and the Oahpa sandbox came today (Cip : -)
  • fix bugs!.

Oahpa!

Ciprian has made a sandbox for Oahpa, for testing out new features and scripts before adding them to the production site.

Meeting memos can be found at http://giellatekno.uit.no/ped/index.html#Meeting+memos

TODO

  • Register oahpa.no (Trond)
  • Add the 13 missing Finnish translations in sme/xml/nouns.xml, and not forget the 4 verbs and 1 adjective (Trond, Tomi)
    • done
  • Generate fin/xml/{nouns|verbs|adjectives}.xml, and implement the new Leksa dropdown menu (Ciprian).
  • clock and date for Numra (Trond, Ciprian).

Corpus gathering

Scanners not yet ordered, Eplehuset is very slow, Børre will talk to Leif Åge about alternative and faster channels.

Setting up tesserac for automatized OCR (open-source).

Maja will call Risten about one contract left-over from Joseph.

TODO:

  • Which books are digitized?
    • These books should be OCR'ed/digitized: Anna Jacobsens books Don jih dan bïjre I-III, Jupmele rïjhke lea gietskesne, Luste lohkedh, Duedtie Novrlaantesne, Naestie-tjoevkesne, Gullie-tjååtsele.
    • Its not digitized yet, should do it this week. A. Jacobsen: Goltelidh jih soptestidh and Mojhtesh are already in electronic form
    • use the corpus gathering document to keep track of each book
  • continue gathering sma corpus texts (Maja)
    • get sma articles in Š-bláđđi
    • the Gun Utsi book is almost there - one contract missing (Jovsset)
      • will meet with the translator in July, and get the signature then
      • check with Jovsset whether he succeeded (Maja)
  • read formal letter to Laila Mattsson-Magga by David (Sjur)
  • write formal letter to Davvi Girji (Sjur)
  • send a copy of the signed contracts back to the authors, translators and publishers, accompanied by the thank-you letter
  • find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi teaching material now being given out to the schools (Sjur)
  • get the sma yearbooks from Saemien sïjhte ( Maja)

Promoting Divvun

TODO:

  • make leaflet to inform about the project (Børre)
    • add InDesign text (Sjur)
    • make XSL script to transform Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document ( Børre, Sjur)
  • distribute CD version through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. Gaaltije in Östersund for example. ( Leif Åge, Sjur)
    • make him send out CD's accordingly (Sjur)
  • update online download log statistics page (Børre)

Future plans, directions and ideas

See a separate document in plan/strat/5year.jspwiki.

Northern areas project

TODO:

  • Attend a beginners' course in Russian (priority: the alphabet!) near you..
  • plan a meeting/seminar with potential cooperation partners (Trond, Sjur)
  • plan for The Real Thing (Trond, Sjur)

Infrastructure

XServe has now replaced the G5, which turned out to be too unstable. The aliases g5 and xs both will start an ssh connection to the XServe. It serves as the web server for both http://divvun.no and http://giellatekno.uit.no.

divvun.no is now static HTML files generated by Forrest.

HFST 2.x is now released, and seems to work fine. Some initial quirks have been worked out.

There are some differences in the lookup output: 

Xerox:
sajis   sadjit+V+TV+Der1+Der/st+V+VGen
sajis   sadjit+V+TV+Der1+Der/st+V+Imprt+ConNeg
sajis   sadjit+V+TV+Der1+Der/st+V+Imprt+Sg2
sajis   sadjit+V+TV+Der1+Der/st+V+Ind+Prs+ConNeg
sajis   sadji+N+Sg+Loc
sajis   sadji+N+Sg+Acc+PxSg3
sajis   sadji+N+Sg+Gen+PxSg3
sajis   sajis+Adv
sajis   sajis+Po

HFST:
sajis
sadjit+V+TV+Der1+Der/st+V+Ind+Prs+ConNeg#
sadjit+V+TV+Der1+Der/st+V+Imprt+Prs+Sg2#
sadjit+V+TV+Der1+Der/st+V+Imprt+Prs+ConNeg#
sadjit+V+TV+Der1+Der/st+V+VGen#
sadji+N+Sg+Gen+PxSg3#
sadji+N+Sg+Acc+PxSg3#
sadji+N+Sg+Loc#
sajis+Adv#
sajis+Po#

~$echo sajis | usme | lookup2cg
"<sajis>"
	 "sajis" Po
	 "sajis" Adv
	 "sadjit" V* TV Der1 Der/st V Imprt Sg2
	 "sadji" N Sg Loc
	 "sadjit" V* TV Der1 Der/st V Imprt ConNeg
	 "sadji" N Sg Acc PxSg3
	 "sadjit" V* TV Der1 Der/st V VGen
	 "sadji" N Sg Gen PxSg3
	 "sadjit" V* TV Der1 Der/st V Ind Prs ConNeg

"<humaheapmi>"
	 "humahit" V* TV Der2 Der/eapmi N Sg Nom
...

The hash mark is explained here.

To accomodate future enhancements in different directions (in rough order of importance):

  1. test bench for all parts of our language technology efforts
    1. test bench enhanced, but not yet complet
  2. set up the Leopard Server features for collaborative support:
    1. permanent chat rooms
    2. stored (and indexed) chat transcripts of the chat rooms
    3. iCal server / group calendars
    4. wiki
  3. wiki? on G5 (is part of Leopard Server) or other web-based documentation
  4. improve Forrest stability and i18n support ( the divvun crashes)
    1. Sjur has been working on better i18n and pdf rendering
    2. Børre has some ideas for getting back to serving static html files
  5. reorganise the documentation:
    1. differ between target groups
    2. get better grouping
    3. decide what to write in forrest and what in wiki (cf. Apertium and http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/apertium/) for a similar split)
    4. update/add missing parts
  6. migrate lexc lexicons to XML, splitting the task
    1. Name lexica (the Name project)
    2. Dictionaries (already in XML, task is to integrate them)
    3. At least migrate the lexc open POSes (Komi as a pilot case)
  7. change the look of the documentation web
  8. use HFST as alternative to XFST
    1. this is now a real option (HFST2 is released), reqiures Makefile enhancements
  9. corpus content moved to Max Planck repositories? Norsk språkbank?
  10. update infrastructure to allow content-restricted spellers for special target groups

TODO:

  • phase out the G5, use the XServe as our web server instead (Børre)
    • done
  • HFST feedback: CG-friendly formatting, to get rid of the lookup2cg script ( Sjur, Trond)
  • upgrade the XServe to Snow Leopard Server (Børre)
  • ask Lene, Linda to install Mikogo (Trond)
  • restructure and clean the script catalogue, using subdirs to categorise the scripts (Ciprian)
    • see posting in the news group
  • infrastructure remake: ( Børre, Ciprian, Saara, Sjur, Tomi, Trond)
    • more modularised make / build infra (prepare for smn, sms, sjd, others)
    • merge gt, kt and st into one
    • modularised preprocess and spellrelax
    • alternatives to make:
  • make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
    • delayed until we have restructured the make/build process
  • define and document testing routines (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
    • delayed until we have restructured the make/build process

Linguistics

North Sámi

(nothing new, see proofing bugs below)

Lule Sámi

Lene has been working hard on the dis files for smj, because of the upcoming conference Lapponic 3. Lexical additions are welcome, so have a look at a missing list near you, if you feel for it.

South Sámi

Maja wants some help with the loanword text and discussion.

The propernoun analysis should (now when the speller is in an alpha state) be promoted upwards on our agenda, and propernouns added.

TODO:

  • Prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM (Maja, Thomas)
  • adjectives (Maja with Thomas, Trond, Sjur)
    • two competing naming conventions of continuation lexicons
      • One naming goes ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE
      • One follows the sme convention of naming key adjectives
      • There are duplicate lexica
    • The comparative issue open here and there
      • The ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE lexica now go to EVENCOMP and ODDCOMP only.
  • work meeting on loan words and proper nouns, this week - tomorrow? ( Maja, Ove (?), Sjur, Thomas, Trond)

Name lexicon/risten.no infrastructure

Tomi has played with couchdb as a replacement for eXist in risten.no and general dictionary-related work. Seems much lighter and easier to work with.

Instead of building our own webforms and back-end update scripts, use XForms with a premade connection to our xml db. Orbeon XForms is such a tool (open source).

From the meeting with the terminology and IT teams last week:

  • no major rework on the present search interface now
  • no work on the editing section; instead:
  • add existing lists of sanctioned terminology as separate term entities
  • add a dictionary if we can make one with sufficient quality

This means the following tasks:

  • find already approved lists, in paper or electronic form (term team)
  • convert paper lists to electronic lists (term team)
  • convert lists to standard XML (Sjur, Tomi)
  • add prepared lists to risten.no (Sjur, Tomi)

TODO:

  1. send eXist log files to Ciprian (Sjur)
  2. fix i18n bug in risten.no/G5 (so they will work without the proper locale request) (Sjur)
  3. fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
  4. finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
  5. test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  6. make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
  7. convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files ( Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
  8. implement data synchronisation between risten.no and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
  9. start to use the xml file as source file
  10. clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, linguists)
  11. merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
  12. publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
  13. add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
  14. add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils ( linguists)

Dictionaries

Komi work is progressing. The meeting last week was clarifying. The work on Komi is also a nice exercise for the make remake task.

Lemma selection on the dictionary for pronouns: Persons as lemma forms, yes, but not case.

  • Person: Separate lemmas
  • Number: Separate lemmas (?)
  • Case: Not separate lemmas

After Komi & Kildin, Ciprian would like to return to sma with some help from Maja.

TODO:

  • set up risten.no on eXist/XServe (as a beta version site) (Sjur)
  • set up required infra for smenob on risten.no/XServe (Sjur)
  • Continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
  • end user documentation (how to download and install) (Ciprian, Trond)
  • Contact Davvi Girji about cooperation on electronic dictionaries ( Sjur)
  • developing the mobile phone version of smenob:
    • http: //pfed.info/wksite/
  • Komi
    • take out the doublets to a separate file (Ciprian)
    • merge the doublets (Jaska, Trond)
    • start looking at the komfin and komeng MacDicts (Ciprian)
    • Completing the automaton to some state (Trond, Jaska, Paula)

Proofing tools

South Sámi (pre)alpha

Maja:

  • inspiration for more work
  • also inspiration for correcting spelling errors in existing documents : )
  • in most cases the speller seems to work fine for nouns

Trond:

  • no phonrule file was used - we want a new version with a somewhat useful phonrule file
  • No Adp was generated. All Adp are now changed to Po and Pr.
  • new version after the loan word and proper noun meeting
  • We need a tool to diff the list of unknown words from the fst and PL-speller: staeriesvoetem is analysed as "staeries" A Attr Der2 Der/voete Sg Acc @OBJ, but it is not recognised by the speller
  • we need a test round for this first speller, to define the baseline for the development

Thomas:

  • many rules in phonrule-file already. We need to check if there is really a need for all these rules, too many rules slow down speller, especially general rules; test thoroughly without the phon-rules file first!
  • specific rules are better than general rules
  • letters or letter combinations are more critical in short words than in long words, examples: jïh>jih is a short word, åssjalommesh is a little bit longer (the speller has not as much choice here, so it will probably find the right suggestion sooner)

A rule like the following should not be necessary - simple transpositions like this is handled quite well by the default speller setup: 

b>p => bluevie>pluevie, Aarborte>Aarporte

TODO:

  • Go through the phonrules file (Thomas)
  • Pick a text for proofreading (Thomas)
  • Proofread a text with tre eror$error notation (Maja)
  • difftest for fst and PL speller (Sjur)
  • Compile a new version after some dust has settled (date fixed?) (Tomi)
  • Look for external beta testers?
    • David and Jovsset will get the speller, for other people we must wait.
  • fix the installer build issues (Sjur)

HFST-based proofing tools

TODO:

  • continue to write an API specification, and an implementation specification ( Sjur)

Hunspell

No further development. See our download page for the latest beta.

Testing

Spelling Error Markup

TODO:

  • test new and nested error markup (Sjur)
    • nesting still needs to be tested, depends on new ccat feature

Speller testing

TODO:

  • test the error type selection feature in ccat (Sjur)
  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (Sjur, Tomi)
  • add South Sámi DLL's to the svn repository (Sjur)

Testing open-source Norwegian spellers

Sjur has invited the open-source group to test their spell-checker using our test bench. The response has been positive, we'll see what happens.

We should go to their developer meetings, and present our work and how to work with language technology.

Speller bugs

List of bugs returned from Polderland:

  • 621
  • 630
  • 652
  • 656
  • 676

Tag reordering for abbreviations have caused a lot of problems: 

smj:
hr.
hr.	hr+ABBR+Acc
cand.philol.
cand.philol.	cand.philol+ABBR+N+Acc
Per
Per	Per+N+Prop+Mal+Sg+Attr

sme:
hr.
hr.	hr+N+ABBR+Acc
Per
Per	Per+N+Prop+Mal+Sg+Attr

Open issues based on test results:

sme

Version: Davvisámi, version 1.2, 2009-09-18

  • 399 - missing numerals (plural forms) - still OPEN
  • 425 - X not recognised; single letters were left out - still OPEN
  • 435 - roman numbers - inflection of single letter numbers rejected, as well as some complex numbers (but is ok in smj) - still OPEN
    • we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file
  • 461 - REGRESSION: missing suggestion (sáhkki)
  • 508 - REGRESSION: accepts smj entries (most likely abbreviation missing)
  • 520 - REGRESSION: r9 and š9 not defined (abbr. missing)
  • 595 - prefix+name without hyphen (ovdaLot instead of ovda-Lot) - still OPEN
  • 603 - suomabealdi accepted - still OPEN
  • 606 - compound-tags LEXICON VUOHTA - still OPEN
  • 613 - short gen. as second compound part - still OPEN
  • 619 - numerals and pronouns to NAMÁK and SASJ fails - vihttasoarttat remaining - still OPEN
  • 629 - a taking part in compounding without hyphen - still OPEN
    • only open case has word A-finálaid compounded
  • 647 - numerals+NOUN - still OPEN, open case has uppercase letters
  • 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still OPEN
  • 661 - REGRESSION: abbr. not recognized
  • 709 - sámedikkeválga accepted - OPEN
  • 728 - vowel shortening GenCmp+Left-tagged - still OPEN
  • 779 - caseforms of pronoun okatahat - still OPEN
  • 785 - does not recognize alphabet-abbr+noun - OPEN
  • 802 - NEW: multiword propernouns
  • 803 - NEW: FINJU- words accepted single-handed
  • 804 - NEW: guovttilogát, njealjilogát
  • 805 - NEW: Nouns+acronyms

smj

Version: Julevsáme, version 1.2, 2009-09-20

  • 435 - roman number - single letter numbers now recognised
    • we should pre-generate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file
    • please note that inflection of single letter numerals is fine in smj, as opposed to sme
  • 482 - polardutkamin not recognized - FIXED
  • 496 - REGRESSION: unrecognised clitics
  • 556 - non-existent word accepted - FIXED
  • 594 - lågenanguoktáj not recognized - still OPEN
  • 595 - REGRESSION: prefix+name as split comp without hyphen
  • 596 - C-giellan is not accepted - still OPEN
  • 600 - Gen+hyph compound - FIXED
  • 627 - prefix + hyhpen does not get accepted - FIXED
  • 647 - numerals+NOUN - still OPEN, open case has uppercase letters
  • 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still OPEN
  • 650 - REGRESSION: noun prefix+name compound without hyphen
  • 652 - UPPERCASE-typos only get acronym-suggestions - still OPEN
  • 692 - numeral-variants - all but one fixed (gáktsalågenantjuotakta), but still OPEN
  • 744 - REGRESSION: numerals + clitic
  • 803 - NEW: VINJU- words accepted single-handed
  • 805 - NEW: Nouns+acronyms

TODO:

  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion (Tomi)

Hyphenator bugs

Open issues based on test results :

sme

Lexicon version: Davvisámi, version 1.2, 2009-09-18

No known issues!

smj

Lexicon version: Julevsáme, version 1.2, 2009-09-20

  • 670 - Hard hyphen replaced with soft hyphen: 10-biejvvásattja (the word is not rec.; Bug #711) - still OPEN

TODO:

  • fix PL hyphenator errors (Tomi)
    • almost done - one smj bug left

Installer changes

TODO:

  • test InDesign installer (Sjur)

User documentation

TODO:

  • InDesign documentation (Sjur)
    • Norwegian translation received from Davvi Girji

1.2 release

Content:

  • several smj bug fixes
  • lexicalisations
  • InDesign Mac & Win
  • new OOo beta
  • improved installers, at least for Mac, preferably also for Windows

Other

Autumn planning

  • speller test project -> Sjur, Børre, Thomas, X
  • speech synthesis -> Sjur, Trond, BA as a starter
  • dictionaries: smanob, komfineng, fkvnob -> Ciprian, Sjur, Trond
  • risten.no -> Ciprian, Sjur, Tomi
  • Barents project follow-up meeting
  • sme and smj proofing tools, next version -> Thomas, Tomi, Sjur
  • HFST-based proofing tools -> Sjur

Text to speech

TODO:

  • refine syntax / dependency rules (Biret Ánne)
  • start public tender process (Sjur)

MT and CAT

TODO:

  • make A-ITE compile and run on Windows (Ciprian)

Open source

The repository is properly closed/open now, and the availability of the source code should be announced.

TODO:

  • announce the availability of our repository on relevant linguistic lists ( Sjur)

Next meeting, closing

The next meeting is 26.10.2009, 9.30 Norwegian time.

Ciprian will be away.

The meeting was closed at 11: 53.

Appendix - task lists for the next week

Boerre

  • order scanners (one book and one flatbed with sheet feeder)
  • static i18n divvun site
  • upgrade the XServe to Snow Leopard Server
  • improve XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Draw document
  • gt/Makefile remake
  • get translations of thank-you letter
  • fix bugs!

Ciprian

  • MT - Autshumato:
    • test Autshumato Alpha version on Windows using Launcher
    • make Autshumato run on Mac
  • eXist:
    • make eXist running with the SLT-DB
  • infrastructure
    • make a schema/dtd description of the lexC-file (experiment with Komi and Romanian)
    • transform sme-lexC files into XML format
  • GT web:
    • coloring output of the disambiguation
    • add a tree visualizer for the dependency trees
  • Bodø Oahpa:
    • generalize for semantic classes and pos
    • implement a login mechanism
    • implement a upload data mechanism
    • setup the Bodø version on victorio
  • Sandbox Oahpa:
    • finish the db installation for sb_oahpa
    • implement and test the Finnish lemmata (and if it works transfer it to the official OAHPA implementation)
  • Running Oahpa:
    • add an Oahpa clock and date excercise (cf. Numra)
    • Generate fin/xml/{nouns|verbs|adjectives}.xml, and implement the new Leksa dropdown menu (but first run the sb_oahpa test)
  • Lovozero Oahpa:
    • check the installation of MySQL, python, and Django on Lene and/or Trond machine
    • implement a simple Leksa version for sjd
  • KomEngFin:
    • split by pos and transform the actual format into gt_dict format
    • compile only one version of dictionary and use css for user preferences
    • generate the first StarDict version of komeng and komfin dictionary
    • test the automatic sorting by Komi alphabet in xsl (as discussed with Trond)
  • SmeNob:
    • the StarDict on Windows: try the HTML-plugin
    • try to reduce the dict-size on mac: experiment with xPointer, etc.
    • incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob
  • SmaNobSwe:
    • extend the smanobswe dictionary
    • check all bug in the sma: nob-swe dictionary
    • fix the bug with the string length in the popup window (sma: nob)
  • SmjNob:
    • start working at a Lule-Sami based on Bruce Moren's data
  • SjdRus:
    • continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary, next internal deadline is the lexicography workshop in November 2009 in Tromsø
  • Corpus:
    • check the processing of new corpus documents (error logging during conversion, conversion quality, documentation, etc.)

Maja

  • work meeting on loan words and proper nouns, this week - tomorrow?
  • Proofread a text with tre eror$error notation
  • Prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM
  • more work on sma adjectives
  • contact Turi Aleksandersen about book signature follow-up from Joseph
  • contact authors of sma aticles in 9-10 eds. of the yearbook Åarjel-saemieh

Sjur

  • work meeting on loan words and proper nouns, this week - tomorrow?
  • HFST feedback: CG-friendly formatting, to get rid of the lookup2cg script
  • fix the installer build issues
  • @Barents: plan a meeting/seminar with potential cooperation partners
  • @Barents: plan for The Real Thing
  • @TTS: start public tender process
  • make Leif Åge send out CD's to distribution points
  • start Nordplus Sprog project
  • send eXist log files to Ciprian
  • Write a formal letter to Davvi girji about electronic dictionaries
  • package and deliver sma proofing tools (with Tomi)
  • make XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document
  • continue to write a proofing API & implementation specification
  • name db/risten.no
  • follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652
  • support and maintenance contract for sme and smj, MS+Adobe tools
  • Sámi languages as part of Norsk språkbank
  • set up risten.no on eXist/XServe (as a beta version site)
  • set up required infra for smenob on risten.no/XServe
  • find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi teaching material now being given out to the schools
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

  • work meeting on loan words and proper nouns, this week - tomorrow?
  • Go through the sma phonrules file
  • Pick a text for proofreading
  • prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM
  • sma adjectives
  • Digitalize south saami books
  • finish reformulating the proper noun grammar like the verbs
  • fix bugs!

Tomi

  • Compile a new version after some dust has settled (date fixed?)
  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion
  • fix double hyphen bugs
  • fix PL smj hyphenator bug
  • fix PL and Hunspell conversion bugs
  • fix bugs!

Trond

  • work meeting on loan words and proper nouns, this week - tomorrow?
  • HFST feedback: CG-friendly formatting, to get rid of the lookup2cg script
  • Mikogo for Lene and Linda
  • Komi
    • Completing the automaton to some state
  • sma proper noun grammar (with the rest of the sma gang)
  • sma hyphens
  • clock and date for Numra
  • fix bugs!.