Meeting_2010-04-26
Contents:
- Meeting setup
 - Agenda
 - Opening, agenda review, participants
 - Updated task status since last meeting
 - Oahpa!
 - Corpus gathering
 - Promoting Divvun
 - Future plans, directions and ideas
 - Infrastructure
 - Linguistics
 - Name lexicon/risten.no infrastructure
 - Proofing tools
 - Other
 - Next meeting, closing
 - Appendix - task lists for the next week
 
Meeting setup
- Date: 26.4.2010 
 - Time: 09.30 Norw. time 
 - Place: Internet 
 - Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat
 
Agenda
Cf. one of the following, depending on context: 
- the upper bar of the SEE window (provided you use the JSPWiki syntax mode)
 - the TOC in Forrest-rendered output, like HTML and PDF
 
Opening, agenda review, participants
Opened at 09: 50.
Present: 
Absent: Maja (on study leave)
Agenda accepted as is.
Updated task status since last meeting
Børre
- meeting to discuss the FIT request for closed repository tomorrow at 9.30 
- Done 
 
 - Done 
 - check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday afternoon 
- Done 
 
 - Done 
 - only access from victorio + XServe 
- access from victorio 
 
 - access from victorio 
 - read access for the rest of our teams + outsiders who have signed the corpus 
 usage agreement - convert or move the files in the  upload dir to the real corpus repo 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - turn on corpus summary crontab 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - contact Ávvir about renewed corpus cooperation 
- this week 
 
 - this week 
 - implement language switch for static divvun site 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - improve XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Draw document 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - get translations of thank-you letter 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - make the new SL Server services functional: 
- group calendars 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 
 - group calendars 
 - set up corpus mirroring on the XServe again 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - give Maja a WebSak intro 
- Maja is on study leave 
 
 - Maja is on study leave 
 - 
fix bugs! 
 - other: 
- Tried to make path based authentication for svn work, unsuccesfully so far 
 - Done research on checkinstall, used it to install vislcg3 on victorio 
 - Helped Elisabeth Scheller install the Kildin Sámi keyboard layout on Windows
 
 - Tried to make path based authentication for svn work, unsuccesfully so far 
 
Ciprian
- meeting to discuss the FIT request for closed repository tomorrow at 9.30 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday afternoon 
- done  
 
 - done  
 - PhD-Projektbeskrivelse (internal deadline April/Mai 2010): 
- search, read, write (execute): high priority! 
- ongoing 
 
 - ongoing 
 
 - search, read, write (execute): high priority! 
 - infrastructure 
- continue with restructuring and cleaning the script catalogue as suggested in 
 the newsgroup- ongoing 
 
 - ongoing 
 - transform sme-lexC files into XML format 
 - make a schema/dtd description of the lexC-file (experiment with
 Komi and Romanian)- low priority 
 
 - low priority 
 
 - continue with restructuring and cleaning the script catalogue as suggested in 
 - GT web: 
- colouring output of the disambiguation 
 - add a tree visualizer for the dependency trees 
 - add input help for special characters on the tool sites 
 - automatise the web statistics 
 - filter (English, German, etc.) input using language detection tools
 - put a note on the sites that these are NOT MT tools 
 - input help for generating wordforms (dropdown menus).
- all issues: ongoing 
 
 - all issues: ongoing 
 
 - colouring output of the disambiguation 
 - Sandbox Oahpa: 
- Numra for Skolt Sámi and Finnish 
 - debug the installed sb_oahpa 
 - update and correct the Oapha docu site 
- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - Numra for Skolt Sámi and Finnish 
 - Running Oahpa: 
- fix Morfa-S related bug after adding Finnish to Leksa 
 - add an Oahpa clock and date excercise (cf. Numra)
 - email notification when the server goes down 
 - check the XXX? 
- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - fix Morfa-S related bug after adding Finnish to Leksa 
 - dictionaries, generally: 
- synchronise the source language entries from a specific dictionary with the  
 entries in the morphology component (now especially for sma): that means nothing then put the entries from dict that are NOT analyzed into the lexC files - the StarDict on Windows: try the HTML-plugin (that means that users can use
 StarDict 3.2) - try to reduce the dict-size on mac: experiment with xPointer, etc. 
- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - synchronise the source language entries from a specific dictionary with the  
 - Fkv: Nob - Nob: Fkv: 
- compile the dictionaries for both directions and in both formats (internal
 deadline depending on Trond and Verena) - try to implement a web version of the dictionaries using the Odense method 
- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - compile the dictionaries for both directions and in both formats (internal
 - KomEngFin: 
- test the automatic sorting by Komi alphabet in xsl (as discussed
 with Trond)- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - test the automatic sorting by Komi alphabet in xsl (as discussed
 - SmeNob: 
- incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob 
 - start a new compilation of SmeNob and improve it based on the experience gained with SmaNob 
- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob 
 - SmaNobSwe: 
- extend the smanobswe dictionary: waiting for data (incorporate the data from
 Maja-Lisa)- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - extend the smanobswe dictionary: waiting for data (incorporate the data from
 - SjdRus: 
- continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary, next internal deadline is 
 the Bodø workshop in March 2010- ongoing 
 
 - ongoing 
 
 - continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary, next internal deadline is 
 - Parallel Corpus interface: 
- waiting input/feedback from Trond 
- svn checked out and installed cwb on victorio (and locally on my Mac)
 
 - svn checked out and installed cwb on victorio (and locally on my Mac)
 
 - waiting input/feedback from Trond 
 - Corpus: 
- check the processing of new corpus documents (error logging during
 conversion, conversion quality, documentation, etc.)- ongoing 
 
 - ongoing 
 
 - check the processing of new corpus documents (error logging during
 - Lexicon workshop 
- evaluate the participants' materials 
 - write feedback emails to each of participant with an individual electronic 
 dictionary - contact Kimberly Mäkäräinen and ask whether she might be willing to share 
 data with us- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - evaluate the participants' materials 
 - MT 
- test Apertium integration in A-ITE 
- todo 
 
 - todo 
 
 - test Apertium integration in A-ITE 
 - Permanent education 
- prepare materials for the XSLT sessions  
- partly done 
 
 - partly done 
 - learn UML (convice Trond and  Sjur of the great assets of ULM for our 
 work!)- low priority
 
 
 - prepare materials for the XSLT sessions  
 
Maja
- check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday afternoon 
 - add missing sma verbs 
 - Prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM 
 - more work on  sma adjectives 
 - look at incoming loanwords 
 - make a goldstandard doc. av SÄPO-dok - korrektur  
 - continue gathering  sma corpus texts 
 - look at Trond's XXX comments 
 - finish compound tags for adjectives 
 - fix bugs!
 
Sjur
- meeting to discuss the FIT request for closed repository tomorrow at 9.30 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday afternoon 
- nothing to check in 
 
 - nothing to check in 
 - test Apertium integration in A-ITE 
- done - waiting 
 
 - done - waiting 
 - install & configure the Unison news reader 
 - gold standard testing for  sma 
 - difftest for fst and PL speller 
 - @Barents: plan a meeting/seminar with potential cooperation partners 
 - @Barents: plan for The Real Thing 
 - @TTS: continue public tender process 
 - make  Leif Åge send out CD's to distribution points 
 - continue Nordplus Sprog project 
- error markup conversion work 
 
 - error markup conversion work 
 - Write a formal letter to  Davvi girji about electronic dictionaries 
 - make XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document 
 - name db/risten.no 
 - follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652 
 - find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi 
 teaching material now being given out to the schools - write new build commands for make 
 - when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones 
 - read through and comment by Wednesday afternoon 
 - 
fix bugs! 
 - other things: 
- proofing documentation in Forrest 
 - updated XServe to allow omorfi to compile 
 - tested Tomi's lexc conversion 
 - discussed Voikka-based speller with Krister Lindén 
 - one day ill
 
 - proofing documentation in Forrest 
 
Thomas
- check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday afternoon 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM 
- nothing this week 
 
 - nothing this week 
 - Digitalize south saami books 
- worked 
 
 - worked 
 - 
fix bugs! 
- some work done
 
 
Tomi
- check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday afternoon 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - convert lexc files for testing old make targets 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - update makefile (old targets)
- done 
 
 - done 
 - announce imminent converstion - Tuesday afternoon 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - actual lexc conversion - Thursday 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - announce conversion done (and new conventions)
- done 
 
 - done 
 - put together the TTS preprocessing transducers and scripts 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - write new build commands 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion 
- not done 
 
 - not done 
 - fix double hyphen bugs 
 - fix PL  smj hyphenator bug 
 - fix PL conversion bugs 
 - fix bugs!
 
Trond
- meeting to discuss the FIT request for closed repository tomorrow at 9.30 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday afternoon 
- Done 
 
 - Done 
 - fkv: nob and nob: fkv scheduled for april release: 
- content and webpage update 
 - Not done 
 
 - content and webpage update 
 - Northern areas 
- Progress. 
 
 - Progress. 
 - MT/Terminology 
- Worked on lexical coverage of sme-nob 
 - Worked on the conversion of fin from cg1 to cg3. 
 
 - Worked on lexical coverage of sme-nob 
 - 
fix bugs!. 
- Added wisdom quotes...
 
 
Oahpa!
Worked a bit on Kildin Sámi, nothing else.
TODO 
- Register oahpa.no (Trond) 
 - Generate fin/xml/{nouns|verbs|adjectives}.xml, and implement the new Leksa
 dropdown menu (Ciprian). - From the start: sjd_oahpa Leksa in deu and eng as well   
 - clock and date for Numra (Trond, Ciprian) 
 - Numra for Skolt Sámi (Trond, Ciprian) 
 - implement the Bodø-Oahpa (Ciprian, Trond, Lene) 
 - email notification when the server goes down (Ciprian) 
 - Finding a volunteer to translate the sme Leksa lexicon to Swedish (Trond)
 
Corpus gathering
Thomas continuously scanning more texts.
TODO: 
- continue gathering  sma corpus texts (Maja) 
- get  sma articles in Š-bláđđi 
 - the Gun Utsi book is almost there - one contract missing (Maja) 
 
 - get  sma articles in Š-bláđđi 
 - write formal letter to Davvi Girji (Sjur) 
 - send a copy of the signed contracts back to the authors, translators and  
 publishers, accompanied by the thank-you letter - find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi 
 teaching material now being given out to the schools (Sjur) - get the  sma yearbooks from  Saemien sïjhte ( Maja) 
 - contact certain  sma writers (Børre) 
 - contact Ávvir about renewed corpus cooperation (Børre) 
 - contact Inga Margrethe Bjørn Eira (Maja) 
 - give Maja a WebSak intro (Børre) 
 - restart the letter mailing thing using WebSak (Maja)
 
Promoting Divvun
TODO: 
- make leaflet to inform about the project (Børre) 
- add InDesign text (Sjur) 
 - make XSL script to transform Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document 
 ( Børre, Sjur) 
 - add InDesign text (Sjur) 
 - distribute CD version through the library bus, the language centres and common 
 sami centres in all of Sápmi. Gaaltije in Östersund for example. ( Leif Åge, Sjur)- make him send out CD's accordingly (Sjur) 
 
 - make him send out CD's accordingly (Sjur) 
 - update online download log statistics page (Børre)
 
Future plans, directions and ideas
See a separate document in plan/strat/5year.jspwiki.
Northern areas project
TODO: 
- Attend a beginners' course in Russian (priority: the alphabet!) near you.. 
 - plan a meeting/seminar with potential cooperation partners (Trond, Sjur) 
 - plan for The Real Thing (Trond, Sjur)
 
Infrastructure
Updated corpus online
Trond would need an alignment of all parallel text (sme-nob) as well as a
TODO: 
- convert to xml, should be done already (Ciprian) 
 - identify parallel nob files - should be automatic, but needs to be checked 
 ( Ciprian) - sentence-align sme with nob (Ciprian) 
 - analyse/disambiguate (Ciprian) 
 - preferably also dep -> check with Oslo if it can be used (Ciprian) 
 - install in Oslo (Ciprian, Trond)
 
Corpus infra remake
TODO: 
- only access from victorio + XServe (Børre) 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - write access only for corpus maintainers (Børre) 
- done 
 
 - done 
 - read access for the rest of our teams + outsiders who have signed the corpus 
 usage agreement (Børre)- not yet - only bound group can read (and write). This is too narrow, we need
 a different group for read-only access (still only on victorio) 
 - not yet - only bound group can read (and write). This is too narrow, we need
 - convert or move the files in the  upload dir to the real corpus repo 
 ( Børre)- not done - they lack meta info 
 
 - not done - they lack meta info 
 - turn on corpus summary crontab (Børre) 
- not done
 
 
License
- licensing of our source code 
- the discussion goes on in news — needs to be finished soon
 
 
TODO: 
- install & configure the Unison news reader (Sjur) 
 - read and comment the license discussion (all)
 
Corpus interface
TODO: 
- make a simple web search form for the UiT corpus repository (Ciprian, X) 
- before May 
 
 - before May 
 - check out the new version of CWB with Unicode support (Ciprian) 
- fall
 
 
Makefile + tag simplification
TODO: 
- convert lexc files - all in  gt/ dir tree && update existing make targets 
 to work with the converted lexc files:- convert lexc files for testing old make targets (Tomi) 
 - update makefile (old targets) (Tomi) 
 - announce imminent converstion - Tuesday afternoon (Tomi) 
 - everybody check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday 
 ( all) - actual lexc conversion - Thursday (Tomi) 
 - announce conversion done (and new conventions) (Tomi) 
 - svn up, and continue lexc work using new lexc tags (all) 
- all done 
 
 - all done 
 
 - convert lexc files for testing old make targets (Tomi) 
 - write new build commands (Sjur, Tomi) 
- next up, high priority 
 
 - next up, high priority 
 - when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones 
 ( Sjur, Tomi) 
General list
Now that we have the FIN-CG from Fred Karlsson, we also need a way of 
Meänkieli adaptions in our infrastructure.
Requirements: 
- separate Subversion repository 
 - structured roughly as our main repository 
 - limited access to the closed repo, in the sense that one language group should 
 not be able to see the work of another language group (exception for administrators) - otherwise it isn't really secret/closed. That is, the FIT gang should only see FIT files, and a hypothetical e.g. Estonian gang should only see the Estonian files, not the FIT files, etc. But to the extent that there are (links to) shared resources the (e.g. links to infrastructure things in another place), they should be visible to all groups - all tools, dtd's, configs work as in and from the main Subversion, such that 
 we don't end up with multiple copies. That is, only content files and no infrastructure files should be in the closed repo - all the rest should stay in the main repo - we should have scripts that move a full language dir from one repo to the 
 other, in both directions, keeping svn history etc. - the amount of work for setting this up should be minimal, or we have to ask 
 them for money 
Tentative task list 
- figure out the svn dir structure in the closed lang repo, set it up 
 - figure out how to make the infrastructure in the open/main repo available for 
 work in the closed repo (we want to have only one dtd, one XXE config, one makefile, etc.) - when we have an idea of the amount of work, decide whether we just do it, or 
 whether we bill them - implement the previous point 
 - transfer the language files, preferably using a script for automatic transfer 
 and deletion in the open repo - inform them about the changes
 
To accommodate future enhancements in different directions (in rough order of
- test bench for all parts of our language technology efforts 
- test bench enhanced, but not yet complete 
 
 - test bench enhanced, but not yet complete 
 - improve Forrest i18n support with static sites 
 - reorganise the documentation: 
- differ between target groups 
 - get better grouping 
 - decide what to write in Forrest and what in wiki 
 (cf. Apertium and http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/apertium/) for a similar split) - update/add missing parts 
 
 - differ between target groups 
 - migrate lexc lexicons to XML, splitting the task 
- Name lexica (the Name project)
 - Dictionaries (already in XML, task is to integrate them)
 - At least migrate the lexc open POSes (Komi as a pilot case)
 
 - Name lexica (the Name project)
 - change the look of the documentation web 
 - corpus content moved to Max Planck repositories? Norsk språkbank? 
 - update infrastructure to allow content-restricted spellers for special target 
 groups 
TODO: 
- make the new SL Server services functional: ( Børre) 
- group calendars 
 
 - group calendars 
 - set up corpus mirroring on the XServe again (Børre) 
 - finish the restructuring  and cleaning of the  script/ directory 
 Ciprian)- has been working a lot on this, at least in number of commits: ) 
 
 - has been working a lot on this, at least in number of commits: ) 
 - infrastructure remake: ( Børre, Ciprian, Sjur, Tomi, Trond) 
- more modularised make / build infra (prepare for smn, sms, sjd, others)
- look at omorfi for ideas of how to modularise 
 
 - look at omorfi for ideas of how to modularise 
 - merge gt, kt and st into one 
 - modularised preprocess and spellrelax 
 - alternatives to make: 
 
 - more modularised make / build infra (prepare for smn, sms, sjd, others)
 - make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond) 
- delayed until we have restructured the make/build process 
 
 - delayed until we have restructured the make/build process 
 - define and document testing routines (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond) 
- delayed until we have restructured the make/build process 
 
 - delayed until we have restructured the make/build process 
 - meeting to discuss the FIT request for closed repository tomorrow at 9.30 
 ( Børre, Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)- techdoc/infra/system/svndump-notes.txt 
- done - but no working solution yet
 
 
 - techdoc/infra/system/svndump-notes.txt 
 
Linguistics
North Sámi
(nothing new, see proofing bugs below)
Lule Sámi
(nothing new, see proofing bugs below)
South Sámi
TODO: 
- Prepare texts about normativity issue to SGL/SGM (Maja) 
- look at Trond's XXX comments (Maja) 
 - read through and comment by Wednesday afternoon (Sjur) 
 
 - look at Trond's XXX comments (Maja) 
 - adjectives (Maja with  Thomas, Trond, Sjur) 
- two competing naming conventions of continuation lexicons 
- One naming goes ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE 
 - One follows the  sme convention of naming key adjectives 
 - There are duplicate lexica 
 
 - One naming goes ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE 
 - The comparative issue open here and there 
- The ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE lexica now go to EVENCOMP and 
 ODDCOMP only. 
 - The ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE lexica now go to EVENCOMP and 
 
 - two competing naming conventions of continuation lexicons 
 - finish compound tags for adjectives (Maja)
 
Name lexicon/risten.no infrastructure
TODO: 
- find already approved lists, in paper or electronic form (term team) 
 - convert paper lists to electronic lists (term team) 
 - convert lists to standard XML (Sjur, Tomi) 
 - add prepared lists to risten.no (Sjur, Tomi) 
 - fix i18n bug in risten.no/G5 (so they will work without the proper locale
 request) (Sjur) - fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara) 
 - finish first version of the editing (Sjur) 
 - test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond) 
 - make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob 
 as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara) - convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files
 ( Sjur, Tomi, Saara) - implement data synchronisation between  risten.no and 
 the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way) - start to use the xml file as source file 
 - clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use 
 (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, linguists) - merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, 
 Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists) - publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur) 
 - add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists) 
 - add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils 
 ( linguists) 
Dictionaries
Nothing new.
Comming releases: 
- FKV dictionary release: we need a web page (see task list below).
 - SME: NOB update release
 
Other things dictionary-related: 
- risten.no data as part of our dictionaries 
 - dictionaries as part of risten.no 
 - dictionaries and risten.no as part of Autshumato ITE
 
TODO: 
- fkv: nob and nob: fkv is now scheduled for an April release: 
- content and webpage update (Trond, Verena) 
 - compile the MacDict and StarDict versions (Ciprian) 
 
 - content and webpage update (Trond, Verena) 
 - kom: fin-eng 
- moved the original kom-lex.xml to the inc-dir and froze it 
 - split it by pos into the working_file dir, the ONLY place to work with 
 the dictionary entries - now, the lexC files are generated via XSLT sheets, no perl scripts 
 - adjusted the Makefile 
 - prepared the pipeline for compiling the mac dict 
 - todo: make a pipeline for StarDict also (as far as I know, Jaska has) 
 a Linux machine 
 - moved the original kom-lex.xml to the inc-dir and froze it 
 - set up risten.no on eXist/XServe (as a beta version site) (Sjur) 
 - set up required infra for smenob on risten.no/XServe (Sjur) 
 - Continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond) 
 - end user documentation (how to download and install) (Ciprian, Trond) 
 - Contact  Davvi Girji about cooperation on electronic dictionaries 
 ( Sjur) - developing the mobile phone version of smenob: 
- http: //pfed.info/wksite/  
 
 - http: //pfed.info/wksite/  
 - Komi 
- take out the doublets to a separate file (Ciprian) 
 - merge the doublets (Jaska, Trond) 
 - Completing the automaton to some state (Trond, Jaska, Paula) 
 
 - take out the doublets to a separate file (Ciprian) 
 - make the sort XSL script available for all languages to keep the source files 
 sorted 
Proofing tools
South Sámi
Beta release: June 1. We should be getting the Polderland (now Knowledge
Update: no updated contract proposal yet from KC despite promises. The lack of 
Sjur has been in talks with  Krister Lindén about whether the HFST team  
TODO: 
- difftest for fst and PL speller (Sjur) 
 - External beta testers: 
- David 
 - Jovsset 
 - the Røros group 
 
 - David 
 - gold standard testing (Sjur)
 
HFST- and Voikko-based proofing tools
We need to test the Sámi analysers with the latest LibVoikko, and give  
TODO: 
- check out the voikko code, see  this page
   
 ( Tomi) - try to compile it (development is done on Linux, no MacOS X testing so far)
 ( Tomi, Sjur) - add voikko support to our proofing test bench (Sjur) 
 - add all our Sámi analysers and test them as spellers (Tomi, Sjur)
 
Testing
Spelling Error Markup
TODO: 
- test new and nested error markup (Sjur) 
- nesting still needs to be tested, depends on new ccat feature
 
 
Speller testing
TODO: 
- test the error type selection feature in ccat (Sjur)
 
Testing open-source Norwegian spellers
Sjur has invited the open-source group to test their spell-checker using our 
We should go to their developer meetings, and present our work and how to work 
Speller bugs
List of bugs returned from Polderland: 
- 621 
 - 630 
 - 652 
 - 656 
 - 676
 
Tag reordering for abbreviations have caused a lot of problems:
smj: hr. hr. hr+ABBR+Acc cand.philol. cand.philol. cand.philol+ABBR+N+Acc Per Per Per+N+Prop+Mal+Sg+Attr sme: hr. hr. hr+N+ABBR+Acc Per Per Per+N+Prop+Mal+Sg+Attr
Open issues based on test results:
sme
- 399 - missing numerals (plural forms) - still OPEN 
 - 425 - X not recognised; single letters were left out - still  OPEN 
 - 435 - roman numbers - inflection of single letter numbers 
 rejected, as well as some complex numbers (but is ok in smj) - still OPEN- we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a 
 separate lexicon file 
 - we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a 
 - 461 -  REGRESSION: missing suggestion (sáhkki)
 - 508 -  REGRESSION: accepts smj entries (most likely abbreviation missing)
 - 520 -  REGRESSION: r9 and š9 not defined (abbr. missing)
 - 595 - prefix+name without hyphen (ovdaLot instead of  ovda-Lot) - still 
 OPEN - 603 - suomabealdi accepted - still  OPEN 
 - 606 - compound-tags LEXICON VUOHTA - still  OPEN 
 - 613 - short gen. as second compound part - still  OPEN 
 - 619 - numerals and pronouns to NAMÁK and SASJ fails -  vihttasoarttat 
 remaining - still OPEN - 629 -  a taking part in compounding without hyphen - still  OPEN 
- only open case has word  A-finálaid compounded 
 
 - only open case has word  A-finálaid compounded 
 - 647 - numerals+NOUN - still  OPEN, open case has uppercase letters 
 - 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still  OPEN 
 - 661 -  REGRESSION: abbr. not recognized 
 - 709 - sámedikkeválga accepted -  OPEN 
 - 728 - vowel shortening GenCmp+Left-tagged - still  OPEN 
 - 779 - caseforms of pronoun okatahat - still  OPEN 
 - 785 - does not recognize alphabet-abbr+noun -  OPEN 
 - 802 -  NEW: multiword propernouns 
 - 803 -  NEW: FINJU- words accepted single-handed 
 - 804 -  NEW: guovttilogát, njealjilogát 
 - 805 - NEW: Nouns+acronyms
 
smj
- 435 - roman number - single letter numbers now recognised 
- we should pre-generate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a 
 separate lexicon file - please note that  inflection of single letter numerals is  fine in 
 smj, as opposed to sme 
 - we should pre-generate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a 
 - 482 -  polardutkamin not recognized -  FIXED 
 - 496 -  REGRESSION: unrecognised clitics 
 - 556 - non-existent word accepted -  FIXED 
 - 594 -  lågenanguoktáj not recognized - still  OPEN 
 - 595 -  REGRESSION: prefix+name as split comp without hyphen 
 - 596 - C-giellan is not accepted - still  OPEN 
 - 600 - Gen+hyph compound -  FIXED 
 - 627 - prefix + hyhpen does not get accepted -  FIXED 
 - 647 - numerals+NOUN - still  OPEN, open case has uppercase letters 
 - 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still  OPEN 
 - 650 -  REGRESSION: noun prefix+name compound without hyphen 
 - 652 - UPPERCASE-typos only get acronym-suggestions - still  OPEN 
 - 692 - numeral-variants - all but one fixed (gáktsalågenantjuotakta), but 
 still OPEN - 744 -  REGRESSION: numerals + clitic 
 - 803 -  NEW: VINJU- words accepted single-handed 
 - 805 - NEW: Nouns+acronyms
 
TODO: 
- document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion (Tomi)
 
Hyphenator bugs
Open issues based on test results :
sme
No known issues!
smj
- 670 - Hard hyphen replaced with soft hyphen: 10-biejvvásattja (the word is 
 not rec.; Bug #711) - still OPEN 
sma
Command to test the hyphenator:
preprocess dev/corp/pressemelding.txt | lookup bin/hyph-sma.fst | cut -f2 | \ lookup bin/hyphrules-sma.fst | grep -v '^$' | cut -f2 | uniq | see
TODO: 
- fix PL hyphenator errors (Tomi) 
- almost done - one smj bug left
 
 
Installer changes
TODO: 
- test InDesign installer (Sjur)
 
User documentation
TODO: 
- InDesign documentation (Sjur) 
- Norwegian translation received from Davvi Girji
 
 
1.2 release
Content: 
- several smj bug fixes 
 - lexicalisations 
 - InDesign Mac & Win 
 - new OOo beta 
 - improved installers, at least for Mac, preferably also for Windows
 
Other
Thursday inhouse seminar
Next time suggestion list: 
- introduction to xslt -  Ciprian to start out 
- relevant xslt issues: 
 - basic principles of xslt … 
 - sorting in xslt … (have a look at the dictionary sort xslt script)
 - converting from one xml format to another wilt xslt (sugg: convert from 
 DivvunGT dictionary dtd to MacDict xml) 
 - relevant xslt issues: 
 
Future seminars: 
- XQuery 
 - More XML (needs concretisation)
 - UML 
 - other suggestions?
 
Spring planning
Topics:
- speller test project -> Sjur, Børre, Thomas, X 
 - speech synthesis -> Sjur, Trond, BA as a starter 
 - risten.no -> Ciprian, Sjur, Tomi 
 - Barents project follow-up meeting -> Trond, Sjur 
 - sme and smj proofing tools, next version -> Thomas, Tomi, Sjur 
 - HFST-based proofing tools -> Sjur 
 - MT terminology project -> Trond, Linda, Fran, Kevin 
 - HSL centre status
 
Dates:
- May 4-5: Lene, Giellagiella 
 - May: LREC Malta: WS: 17-18, Conf. 19-21, WS 22-23 
- Trond 
 - Lene 
 - Linda 
 - Sjur? 
 
 - Trond 
 - July: ACL Uppsala 
 - August: IceTAL, Reykjavik 
 - September 8: Konvens-workshop Saarbrücken: LT and text-technological methods 
 for e-learning http: //konvens2010.de/workshop_en.html:- Lene will try to get an abstract accepted, deadline 16.5 
 - Trond?
 
 - Lene will try to get an abstract accepted, deadline 16.5 
 
Text to speech
TODO: 
- put together the preprocessing transducers and scripts (Tomi) 
 - refine syntax / dependency rules (Biret Ánne) 
 - continue public tender process (Sjur)
 
CAT
Autshuhamo-ITE is now available, and we want to set up a proof-of-concept server 
Apertium installed at: 
/opt/MT/ /opt/MT/apertium3.0.4
Apertium is working in victorio, with one dirty fix: I had to make the following 
- local/bin/cg-proc -> /usr/local/bin/cg-proc
 
apertium-nn-nb$echo ikke |apertium -d . nb-nn ikkje
TODO: 
- test Apertium integration with A-ITE (Ciprian, Sjur) 
 - convert our dictionaries to A-ITE format, so that they can be used directly in 
 there 
Norsk språkbank
Next meeting, closing
The next meeting is 3.5.2010, 13: 00 Norwegian time.
The meeting was closed at 10: 48.
Appendix - task lists for the next week
Boerre
- corpus access on the XServe 
 - read access for the rest of our teams + outsiders who have signed the corpus 
 usage agreement - convert or move the files in the  upload dir to the real corpus repo 
 - turn on corpus summary crontab 
 - contact Ávvir about renewed corpus cooperation 
 - implement language switch for static divvun site 
 - improve XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Draw document 
 - get translations of thank-you letter 
 - make the new SL Server services functional: 
- group calendars 
 
 - group calendars 
 - set up corpus mirroring on the XServe again 
 - give Maja a WEbSak intro 
 - fix bugs!
 
Ciprian
- PhD-Projektbeskrivelse (internal deadline April/Mai 2010): 
- search, read, write (execute): high priority! 
 
 - search, read, write (execute): high priority! 
 - update corpora (both monolingual and parallel) for Oslo (Glossa)
- convert to xml, should be done already 
 - identify parallel nob files - should be automatic, but needs to be checked 
 - sentence-align sme with nob 
 - analyse/disambiguate 
 - preferably also dep -> check with Oslo if it can be used 
 - install updated corpus files in Oslo 
 
 - convert to xml, should be done already 
 - infrastructure 
- test cwb 
 - continue with restructuring and cleaning the script catalogue as suggested 
 in the newsgroup - transform sme-lexC files into XML format 
 - make a schema/dtd description of the lexC-file (experiment with
 Komi and Romanian) 
 - test cwb 
 - GT web: 
- colouring output of the disambiguation 
 - add a tree visualizer for the dependency trees 
 - add input help for special characters on the tool sites 
 - automatise the web statistics 
 - filter (English, German, etc.) input using language detection tools
 - put a note on the sites that these are NOT MT tools 
 - input help for generating wordforms (dropdown menus).
 
 - colouring output of the disambiguation 
 - Sandbox Oahpa: 
- Numra for Skolt Sámi and Finnish 
 - debug the installed sb_oahpa 
 - update and correct the Oapha docu site 
 
 - Numra for Skolt Sámi and Finnish 
 - Running Oahpa: 
- fix Morfa-S related bug after adding Finnish to Leksa 
 - add an Oahpa clock and date excercise (cf. Numra)
 - email notification when the server goes down 
 - check the XXX? 
 
 - fix Morfa-S related bug after adding Finnish to Leksa 
 - dictionaries, generally: 
- synchronize the source language entries from a specific dictionary with the  
 entries in the morphology component (now especially for sma): that means nothing then put the entries from dict that are NOT analyzed into the lexC files - the StarDict on Windows: try the HTML-plugin (that means that users can use
 StarDict 3.2) - try to reduce the dict-size on mac: experiment with xPointer, etc. 
 
 - synchronize the source language entries from a specific dictionary with the  
 - Fkv: Nob - Nob: Fkv: 
- compile the dictionaries for both directions and in both formats (internal
 deadline depending on Trond and Verena) - try to implement a web version of the dictionaries using the Odense method 
 
 - compile the dictionaries for both directions and in both formats (internal
 - KomEngFin: 
- test the automatic sorting by Komi alphabet in xsl (as discussed
 with Trond) 
 - test the automatic sorting by Komi alphabet in xsl (as discussed
 - SmeNob: 
- incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob 
 - start a new compilation of SmeNob and improve it based on the experience 
 gained with SmaNob 
 - incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob 
 - SmaNobSwe: 
- extend the smanobswe dictionary: waiting for data (incorporate the data from
 Maja-Lisa) 
 - extend the smanobswe dictionary: waiting for data (incorporate the data from
 - SjdRus: 
- continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary, next internal deadline 
 is the Bodø workshop in March 2010 
 - continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary, next internal deadline 
 - Lexicon workshop 
- evaluate the participants' materials 
 - write feedback emails to each of participant with an individual electronic 
 dictionary - contact Kimberly Mäkäräinen and ask whether she might be willing to share 
 data with us 
 - evaluate the participants' materials 
 - MT 
- test Apertium integration in A-ITE 
 
 - test Apertium integration in A-ITE 
 - Permanent education 
- prepare materials for the XSLT sessions  
 - learn UML
 
 - prepare materials for the XSLT sessions  
 
Maja
- check in  all local lexc changes in the  gt/ tree - Wednesday afternoon 
 - add missing sma verbs 
 - Prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM 
 - more work on  sma adjectives 
 - look at incoming loanwords 
 - make a goldstandard doc. av SÄPO-dok - korrektur  
 - continue gathering  sma corpus texts 
 - look at Trond's XXX comments 
 - finish compound tags for adjectives 
 - fix bugs!
 
Sjur
- try to compile it 
 - add voikko support to our proofing test bench 
 - add all our Sámi analysers and test them as spellers 
 - test Apertium integration in A-ITE 
 - install & configure the Unison news reader 
 - gold standard testing for  sma 
 - difftest for fst and PL speller 
 - @Barents: plan a meeting/seminar with potential cooperation partners 
 - @Barents: plan for The Real Thing 
 - @TTS: continue public tender process 
 - make  Leif Åge send out CD's to distribution points 
 - contintue Nordplus Sprog project 
 - Write a formal letter to  Davvi girji about electronic dictionaries 
 - make XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document 
 - name db/risten.no 
 - follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652 
 - find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi 
 teaching material now being given out to the schools - write new build commands for make 
 - when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones 
 - read through and comment by Wednesday afternoon 
 - fix bugs!
 
Thomas
- prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM 
 - Digitalize south saami books 
 - fix bugs!
 
Tomi
- put together the TTS preprocessing transducers and scripts 
 - write new build commands 
 - check out the voikko code 
 - try to compile voikko 
 - add all our Sámi analysers and test them as spellers 
 - when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones 
 - document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion 
 - fix double hyphen bugs 
 - fix PL  smj hyphenator bug 
 - fix PL conversion bugs 
 - fix bugs!
 
Trond
- fkv: nob and nob: fkv scheduled for april release: 
- content and webpage update 
 
 - content and webpage update 
 - Northern areas 
 - MT/Terminology 
 - install updated corpus files in Oslo 
 - fix bugs!.
 

