Meeting_2010-08-23

Meeting setup

  • Date: 23.8.2010
  • Time: 09.30 Norw. time
  • Place: Internet
  • Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat

Agenda

Cf. one of the following, depending on context:

  • the upper bar of the SEE window (provided you use the JSPWiki syntax mode)
  • the TOC in Forrest-rendered output, like HTML and PDF

Opening, agenda review, participants

  • Opened at 10: 01.
  • Present: Børre, Ciprian, Maja, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi, Trond
  • Absent: none
  • Agenda accepted as is

Updated task status since last meeting

Børre

  • get all the latest Sámi Parliament protocolls into our repository
    • Found protocols in nob-sme versions up to 2005, have added most of them. Protocols from 2006 up to the second protocol in 2010 don't seem to have been translated, so they are lacking.
  • contact the Sámi translators at the government and ministeries to get more parallell texts
    • not done
  • corpus access on the XServe
    • not done
  • turn on corpus summary crontab
    • not done
  • implement language switch for static divvun site
    • not done
  • improve XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Draw document
    • not done
  • get translations of thank-you letter
    • not done
  • make the new SL Server services functional:
    • group calendars
      • not done
  • set up corpus mirroring on the XServe again
    • not done
  • give Maja a WEbSak intro
    • not done
  • add checkout of the free corpus to the gtsetup.sh script
    • not done
  • add checkout of the bound corpus when on victorio
    • not done
  • sma seminar in August/September:
    • test installation of all needed software
    • test XMLEditor on Windows, including plugin installation
    • test svn checkout and patch creation on Windows, using a GUI client
      • not done
  • fix bugs!
    • Fixed #860

Ciprian

  • make risten2 budget proposal to the SD with Sjur
    • done
  • sma seminar in August/September:
    • prepare slides
      • ongoing
    • test XMLEditor plugin installation
      • todo
    • augment the dictionary DTD with oahpa features and requirements
      • waiting for Sjur's counterarguments (Trond and Lene agree on the intermediate solution proposed by Cip)
    • finnish the setup of the sma-oahpa on victorio
      • ongoing
    • build a preliminary data set for sma-Leksa (based on the DTD)
      • ongoing
  • Skolt-Oahpa:
    • fine tuning of semantic tags
    • finish localization
      • todo
  • terminology:
    • merged the 2 doc files with the xls file containing the 2006 law terminology db
    • prepare a StarDict test version of the merged data for demo
    • compile a dictionary in StarDict format with all data featuring the properties wished by Ellen Ravna
      • todo
  • add license header to all files
  • PhD-Projektbeskrivelse (internal deadline end of June 2010):
    • search, read, write (execute): high priority!
  • read and answer the newsgroups messages
    • reading Performace Grammar and Nunberg's Linguistics of Punctuation
  • update corpora (both monolingual and parallel) for Oslo (Glossa)
    • check the correctness of parallelity between sme and nob files
      • after setting up the whole conversion pipeline
    • sentence-align sme with nob: fix tca2 problem
      • todo
    • analyse/disambiguate: todo -- waiting for the last version of FSTs
  • corpus infra:
    • check the conversion from old rcs corpus repository to new svn-based
    • make the conversion scripts work with the new svn repository
      • adjusted paths to scrips after reorganizing script-dir
      • add check for almost empty content: todo
      • add processing of svg files: todo
    • reorganise subdirs as needed
      • created a subdir corpus and moved all (check with Børre, Trond and Sjur) relevant file there
      • ajsusted paths in the analye file, now checking the convert script
  • infrastructure
    • test cwb
    • continue with restructuring and cleaning the script catalogue as suggested in the newsgroup
      • done for corpus-related stuff
    • transform sme-lexC files into XML format
      • apparently, there is a script that does exactly that (ask Tomi)
    • make a schema/dtd description of the lexC-file (experiment with Komi and Romanian)
      • todo
  • GT web:
    • add a tree visualizer for the dependency trees
    • add input help for special characters on the tool sites
    • automatise the web statistics
    • filter (English, German, etc.) input using language detection tools
    • put a note on the sites that these are NOT MT tools
    • input help for generating wordforms (dropdown menus).
      • all here: todo
  • Sandbox Oahpa:
    • integrate reCAPTCHA into Django (as Lene suggested)
    • debug the installed sb_oahpa
    • update and correct the Oapha docu site
      • all here: todo
  • Running Oahpa:
    • implement a testbench for Vasta (as Lene needs)
    • integrate reCAPTCHA after the SB-test
    • add an Oahpa clock and date excercise (cf. Numra)
    • email notification when the server goes down
    • check the XXX?
      • all here: todo
  • Sjd/Kom/Sms/Etc-Oahpa
    • try to implement and embed virtual keyboards for each specific Oahpa
    • try to learn something about compiling keyboard in general
  • dictionaries, generally:
    • synchronize the source language entries from a specific dictionary with the entries in the morphology component (now especially for sma): that means nothing then put the entries from dict that are NOT analyzed into the lexC files
    • the StarDict on Windows: try the HTML-plugin (that means that users can use StarDict 3.2)
    • try to reduce the dict-size on mac: experiment with xPointer, etc.
  • Fkv: Nob - Nob: Fkv:
    • incorporate novel glossary into the dict
    • try to implement a web version of the dictionaries in HTML
  • KomEngFin:
    • test the automatic sorting by Komi alphabet in xsl (as discussed with Trond)
  • SmeNob:
    • incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob
    • start a new compilation of SmeNob and improve it based on the experience gained with SmaNob
  • SmaNobSwe:
    • extend the smanobswe dictionary: waiting for data (incorporate the data from Maja-Lisa)
  • SjdRus:
    • continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary, next internal deadline is after finishing the PhD project description
      • all dict-related work: todo
  • MT
    • test A-ITE on Windows
      • todo

Maja

  • prepare: Drøfting og diskusjon om lånord i sørsamisk
    • ongoing - with Ove Lorentz - lage oppgaver for gruppearbeid
  • more work on sma adjectives
    • not prio
  • look at incoming loanwords
    • not prio
  • continue gathering sma corpus texts
    • not prio
  • finish compound tags for adjectives
    • Ongoing
  • Rette goldstandard doc - så mange som mulig - high prio! - min. 1000 (helst 5000) ord løpende tekst
    • ongoing
  • make a list of participants in $GTPRIV/
    • done
  • call a select few that have not answered but that we want there
    • done
  • fix goldstandard files (location)
    • ongoing
    • free documents: $FREECORP/goldstandard/orig/sma
    • bound documents: $BOUNDCORP/goldstandard/orig/sma
  • test conversion to xml to ensure there are no markup errors
  • continue gathering sma corpus texts
    • get sma articles in Š-bláđđi
    • the Gun Utsi book is almost there - one contract missing
      • not prio
  • Corpus gathering:
    • contact Inga Margrethe Bjørn Eira
    • not prio
    • follow up the yearbook-articles
    • not prio
    • restart the letter mailing thing using WebSak
    • not done
  • adjectives
  • fix bugs!

Sjur

  • make risten2 budget proposal to the SD
    • done
  • add checkout of the free corpus to the gtsetup.sh script
    • not yet
  • add checkout of the bound corpus when on victorio
    • not yet
  • test the sma speller on the gold standard document
    • done, committed, and sent to Thomas and Maja for checking
  • add voikko support to our proofing test bench
    • not yet
  • add all our Sámi analysers to voikko and test them as spellers
    • not yet
  • run speller tests using Hunspell, Voikko, Polderland for our Sámi lexicons
    • not yet
  • install & configure the Unison news reader
    • not yet
  • difftest for fst and PL speller
    • not yet
  • Northern areas
    • plan a meeting/seminar in Tromsø
    • make a plan for the first two years, update overall plan
  • @TTS: continue public tender process
  • make Leif Åge send out CD's to distribution points
  • contintue Nordplus Sprog project
    • more work on the test bench
  • Write a formal letter to Davvi girji about electronic dictionaries
  • make XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document
  • name db/risten.no
    • budget for risten2, see above
  • follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652
  • find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi teaching material now being given out to the schools
  • when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones
    • done? (should be by Tomi)
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

  • prepare: Drøfting og diskusjon om lånord i sørsamisk
    • not done
  • test the new build commands and their fst's: make NEW-fst TARGET=sme etc.
    • done
  • check extra hyphens in the lexc continuations with Trond
    • not done
  • check for a new computer
    • done, it should be here this week
  • fix goldstandard files (location)
    • maybe
  • test conversion to xml to ensure there are no markup errors
    • just begun
  • prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM
    • not done
  • Digitalize south saami books
    • done
  • fix bugs!
    • not done

Tomi

  • run tests using Hunspell, Voikko, Polderland for our Sámi lexicons
    • not done
  • put together the TTS preprocessing transducers and scripts
    • not done
  • try to compile voikko
    • not working
  • add all our Sámi analysers and test them as spellers
    • not done
  • when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones
    • deleting now
  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion
    • not done
  • fix double hyphen bugs
  • fix PL smj hyphenator bug
  • fix PL conversion bugs
  • fix bugs!

Trond

  • check extra hyphens in the lexc continuations with Thomas
    • Done some, but no meeting with Thomas yet
  • Course plan for Barents meeting/seminar, october. Financing must be in place.
    • Awaiting
  • Northern areas
    • plan a meeting/seminar in Tromsø
    • Awaiting
    • make a plan for the first two years, update overall plan
    • Awaiting
  • MT/Terminology
    • Much work here, both on smenob, finsme and smesma
  • fix bugs!.
    • Done 2.

Oahpa!

Status:

  • sma-oahpa already started, installation will be done by this friday
  • Ciprian should add just 15 entires per pos n, v, a
  • the interim lexicon format as already proposed via email:
    • the current gt_dict lexicon having each relevant meaning group extended with application relevant slots.

TODO

  • add 15 entires per pos n, v, a to sma-oahpa lexa (Ciprian)
  • Register oahpa.no (Trond)
  • From the start: sjd_oahpa Leksa in deu and eng as well (Ciprian)
    • delayed
  • clock and date for Numra (Ciprian)
  • activate numra for Skolt Sámi (Ciprian)
  • email notification when the server goes down (Ciprian)
  • Finding a volunteer to translate the sme Leksa lexicon to Swedish (Trond)
    • found, and now returned to do something.
  • add Captcha for the feedback e-mail address (Ciprian)

Corpus gathering

National Library: there is a meeting in September, to which Trond is going. Trond will request a couple of Sámi OCR-ed texts (together with the nob texts we already have), and use them as test cases for spell-checking and (automatically) correcting the OCR-ed texts.

This work should be incorporated in the test bench project, and serve as a basis for developing a better nob (and potentially nno as well) morphologies, to be used in our different projects. The main project, developing an OCR-adapted Norwegian spell-checker (as open source) should be financed by the Language bank.

There are starting points both in our own svn and in Apertium, both based on the lexicons from UiO/Norsk ordbank.

Our main goal with this would be to help the Language bank and the Natinal Library provide us with usable Sámi (and possibly Norwegian) corpus material, but there are a number of other secondary goals and positive side effects of this as well.

TODO:

  • get all the latest Sámi Parliament protocolls into our repository (Børre)
    • mostly done, protocolls from the period 2006-2010/1 do not seem to be translated into sme - Børre will check this
  • contact the Sámi translators at the government and ministeries to get more parallell texts (Børre)
  • continue gathering sma corpus texts (Maja)
    • get sma articles in Š-bláđđi
    • the Gun Utsi book is almost there - one contract missing (Maja)
  • write formal letter to Davvi Girji (Sjur)
  • send a copy of the signed contracts back to the authors, translators and publishers, accompanied by the thank-you letter
  • find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi teaching material now being given out to the schools (Sjur)
  • get the sma yearbooks from Saemien sïjhte ( Maja)
  • contact certain sma writers (Børre)
  • contact Inga Margrethe Bjørn Eira (Maja)
  • give Maja a WebSak intro (Børre)
  • restart the letter mailing thing using WebSak (Maja)

Promoting Divvun

Rune Fjelheim suggested last week that we should start a separate project to inform about, teach about and install our language technology tools (not only Divvun). This would also make a very good feedback channel.

TODO:

  • make leaflet to inform about the project (Børre)
    • add InDesign text (Sjur)
    • make XSL script to transform Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document ( Børre, Sjur)
  • distribute CD version through the library bus, the language centres and common sami centres in all of Sápmi. Gaaltije in Östersund for example. ( Leif Åge, Sjur)
    • make him send out CD's accordingly (Sjur)
  • update online download log statistics page (Børre)

Future plans, directions and ideas

See a separate document in plan/strat/5year.jspwiki.

Northern areas project

First major obstacle: make working keyboards and fonts. In principle, there are two approaches to keyboards:

  1. Make the Russian-based keyboards work
  2. Design new Kildin-optimized keyboards

The first goal has priority. We should have text analysis in order to consider whether the second goal is feasible. Trond to follow up test machines.

  • Choice of fonts
  • Rendering of fonts in MS Word and other important programs
  • Keyboard layout
    • Empirical phase: What keyboards are around
    • Design phase: Make the optimal keyboards -- for all OSes

Write trustworthy and detailed documentation (in Russian)

What we know:

  • you can type on some computers (Michael R: it works), not on others. Q: what are the differences between the two types of computers?
  • some fonts can't display the chars, others can (but usually ugly)

TODO:

  • Course plan for meeting/seminar, october. Financing must be in place.
    • check the time needed to tet visas with the UiT admin (Trond)
    • call the ministry (Trond)
  • Attend a beginners' course in Russian (priority: the alphabet!) near you..
  • make a plan for the first two years, update overall plan (Trond, Sjur)
  • Follow up Windows test machines

Infrastructure

Out of the box experiences:

  • fao could not be compiled out of the box (the Oslo gang tried) because of a missing tmp dir
  • our list of software to install is incomplete or lacking installation instructions
  • external tools require manual installation
  • there are bugs in the gtsetup.sh script

Updated corpus online

See Ciprian´s document about the corpus content in $GTPRIV/plan/corpus/oslo_corpus_update_todo.txt.

Issues:

  • filenames
  • organisation of subdirs?
  • content (or lack thereof) of original and converted files
  • svn repo reorganisation 
facta$convert2xml.pl --nolog --corpdir=/usr/local/share/corp L1allOrt.correct.txt

Error message: 

sh: /home/sjur/gtmain/gt/script/text_cat: No such file or directory
L1allOrt.correct.txt: ERROR errors in /home/sjur/gtmain/gt/script/text_cat -q \
   -x -d /home/sjur/gtmain/gt/script/LM "/usr/local/share/corp/tmp/L1allOrt.correct.txt.tmp0":

text_cat isn't part of our repository, we need to add it - we are using a modified version of the original file. It should be added with a short README and some license info, pointing to the original.

TODO:

  • make the conversion scripts work with the new svn repository ( Børre, Ciprian)
    • add check for almost empty content
      • already implemented in convert2xml.pl. Still empty or almost empty files are converted. This is because of unexpected structure of content, so that the conversion goes wrong, and leaves no real content in the resulting xml file.
    • add processing of svg files
      • not done
  • reorganise subdirs as needed (Ciprian, Trond)
    • not yet done
  • identify parallel nob files - should be automatic, but needs to be checked ( Ciprian)
  • sentence-align sme with nob (Ciprian)
    • the aligner wasn't working, Børre has tried to fix it
      • not yet fixed - bug not found
  • analyse/disambiguate (Ciprian)
  • preferably also dep -> check with Oslo if it can be used (Ciprian)
  • install in Oslo (Ciprian, Trond)
  • add better handling of unknown strings in our analysers (???)

Corpus infra remake

Ciprian has moved all code relating to convert2xml.pl to a subfolder. Still needs testing especially on victorio.

TODO:

  • convert or move the files in the upload dir to the real corpus repo ( Børre)
    • almost finished, moved files to both bound/ and free/, will soon write documentation on how to use the new corpus infra
  • turn on corpus summary crontab (Børre)
  • needs to check the conversion from old rcs corpus repository to new svn-based repository (Ciprian)
  • add checkout of the free corpus to the gtsetup.sh script (Børre, Sjur)
  • add checkout of the bound corpus when on victorio (Børre, Sjur)
  • add updates of free & bound to the svnup alias (Børre)

License

TODO:

  • install & configure the Unison news reader (Sjur)

Corpus interface

This depends on the infrastructure cleanup.

TODO:

  • make a simple web search form for the UiT corpus repository (Ciprian, X)
  • check out the new version of CWB with Unicode support (Ciprian)
    • fall

Makefile + tag simplification

Problems with the proofing tools compilation, now solved.

TODO:

  1. test the new build commands (Sjur, Trond, Lene, Thomas)
    1. kommando: make TARGET=sme NEW-fst etc.
    2. test by comparing the output of the old and new analysers - it should be identical. Test both analysis and generation (ie all your favourite usecases)
  2. when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones ( Sjur, Tomi)
    1. tests seem fine: Thursday morning August 19, Tomi will implement this.

HFST compilation

Our HFST transducers do still contain all the extra tags resulting from the tag conversion (cf above). The Apertium versions do not, however. The main problem here is the forking of smi transducer builing and maintenance - one branch in Giellatekno, and another in Apertium. This is not good for future maintenance, and should be corrected ASAP. The tag-removing make steps should be incorporated in the giellatekno svn.

General list

Meänkieli adaptions in our infrastructure.

Requirements:

  • separate Subversion repository
  • structured roughly as our main repository
  • limited access to the closed repo, in the sense that one language group should not be able to see the work of another language group (exception for administrators) - otherwise it isn't really secret/closed. That is, the FIT gang should only see FIT files, and a hypothetical e.g. Estonian gang should only see the Estonian files, not the FIT files, etc. But to the extent that there are (links to) shared resources the (e.g. links to infrastructure things in another place), they should be visible to all groups
  • all tools, dtd's, configs work as in and from the main Subversion, such that we don't end up with multiple copies. That is, only content files and no infrastructure files should be in the closed repo - all the rest should stay in the main repo
  • we should have scripts that move a full language dir from one repo to the other, in both directions, keeping svn history etc.
  • the amount of work for setting this up should be minimal, or we have to ask them for money

Tentative task list

  • figure out the svn dir structure in the closed lang repo, set it up
  • figure out how to make the infrastructure in the open/main repo available for work in the closed repo (we want to have only one dtd, one XXE config, one makefile, etc.)
  • when we have an idea of the amount of work, decide whether we just do it, or whether we bill them
  • implement the previous point
  • transfer the language files, preferably using a script for automatic transfer and deletion in the open repo
  • inform them about the changes

To accommodate future enhancements in different directions (in rough order of importance):

  1. test bench for all parts of our language technology efforts
    1. test bench enhanced, but not yet complete
  2. improve Forrest i18n support with static sites
  3. reorganise the documentation:
    1. differ between target groups
    2. get better grouping
    3. decide what to write in Forrest and what in wiki (cf. Apertium and http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/apertium/) for a similar split)
    4. update/add missing parts
  4. migrate lexc lexicons to XML, splitting the task
    1. Name lexica (the Name project)
    2. Dictionaries (already in XML, task is to integrate them)
    3. At least migrate the lexc open POSes (Komi as a pilot case)
  5. change the look of the documentation web
  6. corpus content moved to Max Planck repositories? Norsk språkbank?
  7. update infrastructure to allow content-restricted spellers for special target groups

TODO:

  • add Apertium to the XServe (Børre)
  • make the new SL Server services functional: ( Børre)
    • group calendars
  • set up corpus mirroring on the XServe again (Børre)
    • on victorio, all files are checked out and converted in /home/apache_corpus/boundcorpus|freecorpus/converted
  • finish the restructuring and cleaning of the script/ directory Ciprian)
  • infrastructure remake: ( Børre, Ciprian, Sjur, Tomi, Trond)
    • more modularised make / build infra (prepare for smn, sms, sjd, others)
      • look at omorfi for ideas of how to modularise
    • merge gt, kt and st into one
    • modularised preprocess and spellrelax
    • alternatives to make:
  • make a test-all target that runs all tests we have (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
    • delayed until we have restructured the make/build process
  • define and document testing routines (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
    • delayed until we have restructured the make/build process

Linguistics

North Sámi

There are a lot of hyphens found in noun paradigms. They should not be there. Trond and Thomas will look into them.

TODO:

  • check extra hyphens in the sme lexc continuations (Thomas, Trond)

Lule Sámi

TODO:

  • check extra hyphens in the smj lexc continuations (Thomas, Trond)

South Sámi

TODO:

  • read through and comment by Wednesday afternoon (Sjur)
  • adjectives (Maja with Thomas, Trond, Sjur)
    • two competing naming conventions of continuation lexicons
      • One naming goes ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE
      • One follows the sme convention of naming key adjectives
      • There are duplicate lexica
    • The comparative issue open here and there
      • The ATTRSUFF-PREDSUFF-STEMTYPE lexica now go to EVENCOMP and ODDCOMP only.
  • finish compound tags for adjectives (Maja)

Name lexicon/risten.no infrastructure

Sjur made a budget for risten2 with great help from Ciprian and Trond.

TODO:

  • make budget proposal to the SD (Ciprian, Sjur)
  • find already approved lists, in paper or electronic form (term team)
  • convert paper lists to electronic lists (term team)
  • convert lists to standard XML (Sjur, Tomi)
  • add prepared lists to risten.no (Sjur, Tomi)
  • fix i18n bug in risten.no/G5 (so they will work without the proper locale request) (Sjur)
  • fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
  • finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
  • test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  • make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
  • convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files ( Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
  • implement data synchronisation between risten.no and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
  • start to use the xml file as source file
  • clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, linguists)
  • merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
  • publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
  • add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
  • add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils ( linguists)

Dictionaries

Ciprian has made a proposal for unifying Oahpa and general dictionary formats into one DTD.

StarDict is useless for Cyrillic languages, mainly because of the scanning function (ie point and look-up). We need to find an alternative to StarDict. Also, the Kildin Sámi users have different needs than we have had in mind. And they don't have access to a Kildin Sámi keyboard in Windows.

  • we need a Russian Windows machine, bought in Russia, using the software they use
  • we also of course need a western/Norwegian Windows machine for testing

Released:

  • SME: NOB update release

Other things dictionary-related:

  • risten.no data as part of our dictionaries
  • dictionaries as part of risten.no
  • dictionaries and risten.no as part of Autshumato ITE

TODO:

  • kom: fin-eng
    • moved the original kom-lex.xml to the inc-dir and froze it
    • split it by pos into the working_file dir, the ONLY place to work with the dictionary entries
    • now, the lexC files are generated via XSLT sheets, no perl scripts
    • adjusted the Makefile
    • prepared the pipeline for compiling the mac dict
    • todo: make a pipeline for StarDict also (as far as I know, Jaska has) a Linux machine
  • set up risten.no on eXist/XServe (as a beta version site) (Sjur)
  • set up required infra for smenob on risten.no/XServe (Sjur)
  • Continue the dictionary infrastructure discussion (Ciprian, Sjur, Trond)
  • end user documentation (how to download and install) (Ciprian, Trond)
  • Contact Davvi Girji about cooperation on electronic dictionaries ( Sjur)
  • developing the mobile phone version of smenob:
  • Komi
    • take out the doublets to a separate file (Ciprian)
    • merge the doublets (Jaska, Trond)
    • Completing the automaton to some state (Trond, Jaska, Paula)
  • make the sort XSL script available for all languages to keep the source files sorted

Proofing tools

Spelling feedback from Malta:

  • use FST to model suggestions (Krister et al)
  • Lene is evaluating the output of the Polderland speller
    • first-letter errors rare, but the PLX speller still changes it quite often
    • Oahpa and Divvun approaching each other
  • using Wikipedia as a source for spelling errors and test material (a French group has made a setup of tools to automatise most of this)

South Sámi

Beta release: Aug 25. Contract now ok by Knowledge Concepts. Suggested timetable sent this morning.

There are no goldstandard files in the correct location in the corpus repository. This needs to be fixed before we start testing the sma speller.

TODO:

  • fix goldstandard files (location) (Maja, Sjur, Thomas)
    • free documents: $FREECORP/goldstandard/orig/sma
    • bound documents: $BOUNDCORP/goldstandard/orig/sma
      • done
  • test conversion to xml to ensure there are no markup errors ( Maja, Sjur, Thomas)
    • done for some
  • test the sma speller on the gold standard document (Sjur)
    • done
  • difftest for fst and PL speller (Sjur)
  • External beta testers:
    • David
    • Jovsset
    • the Røros group

HFST- and Voikko-based proofing tools

Sjur met with the HFST people yesterday. Two things happening in parallell:

  1. hfst3 - being made ready for public release, with proper inclusion of autotools, and updated documentation
  2. speller/lookup library:
    1. speller/lookup library
    2. voikko integration of this library

TODO:

  • Change the license tag to GPL for voikko inclusion. (see above)
    • done
  • run tests using Hunspell, Voikko, Polderland for our Sámi lexicons ( Sjur, Tomi)
  • check out the voikko code, see this page ( Tomi)
  • try to compile it (development is done on Linux, no MacOS X testing so far) ( Tomi)
  • add voikko support to our proofing test bench (Sjur)
  • add all our Sámi analysers and test them as spellers (Tomi, Sjur)

Speller bugs

List of bugs returned from Polderland:

  • 621
  • 630
  • 652
  • 656
  • 676

Tag reordering for abbreviations have caused a lot of problems: 

smj:
hr.
hr.	hr+ABBR+Acc
cand.philol.
cand.philol.	cand.philol+ABBR+N+Acc
Per
Per	Per+N+Prop+Mal+Sg+Attr

sme:
hr.
hr.	hr+N+ABBR+Acc
Per
Per	Per+N+Prop+Mal+Sg+Attr

Open issues based on test results:

sme

Version: Davvisámi, version 1.2, 2009-09-18

  • 399 - missing numerals (plural forms) - still OPEN
  • 425 - X not recognised; single letters were left out - still OPEN
  • 435 - roman numbers - inflection of single letter numbers rejected, as well as some complex numbers (but is ok in smj) - still OPEN
    • we should pregenerate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file
  • 461 - REGRESSION: missing suggestion (sáhkki)
  • 508 - REGRESSION: accepts smj entries (most likely abbreviation missing)
  • 520 - REGRESSION: r9 and š9 not defined (abbr. missing)
  • 595 - prefix+name without hyphen (ovdaLot instead of ovda-Lot) - still OPEN
  • 603 - suomabealdi accepted - still OPEN
  • 606 - compound-tags LEXICON VUOHTA - still OPEN
  • 613 - short gen. as second compound part - still OPEN
  • 619 - numerals and pronouns to NAMÁK and SASJ fails - vihttasoarttat remaining - still OPEN
  • 629 - a taking part in compounding without hyphen - still OPEN
    • only open case has word A-finálaid compounded
  • 647 - numerals+NOUN - still OPEN, open case has uppercase letters
  • 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still OPEN
  • 661 - REGRESSION: abbr. not recognized
  • 709 - sámedikkeválga accepted - OPEN
  • 728 - vowel shortening GenCmp+Left-tagged - still OPEN
  • 779 - caseforms of pronoun okatahat - still OPEN
  • 785 - does not recognize alphabet-abbr+noun - OPEN
  • 802 - NEW: multiword propernouns
  • 803 - NEW: FINJU- words accepted single-handed
  • 804 - NEW: guovttilogát, njealjilogát
  • 805 - NEW: Nouns+acronyms

smj

Version: Julevsáme, version 1.2, 2009-09-20

  • 435 - roman number - single letter numbers now recognised
    • we should pre-generate all numbers once and for all, and store them in a separate lexicon file
    • please note that inflection of single letter numerals is fine in smj, as opposed to sme
  • 482 - polardutkamin not recognized - FIXED
  • 496 - REGRESSION: unrecognised clitics
  • 556 - non-existent word accepted - FIXED
  • 594 - lågenanguoktáj not recognized - still OPEN
  • 595 - REGRESSION: prefix+name as split comp without hyphen
  • 596 - C-giellan is not accepted - still OPEN
  • 600 - Gen+hyph compound - FIXED
  • 627 - prefix + hyhpen does not get accepted - FIXED
  • 647 - numerals+NOUN - still OPEN, open case has uppercase letters
  • 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun - still OPEN
  • 650 - REGRESSION: noun prefix+name compound without hyphen
  • 652 - UPPERCASE-typos only get acronym-suggestions - still OPEN
  • 692 - numeral-variants - all but one fixed (gáktsalågenantjuotakta), but still OPEN
  • 744 - REGRESSION: numerals + clitic
  • 803 - NEW: VINJU- words accepted single-handed
  • 805 - NEW: Nouns+acronyms

TODO:

  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion (Tomi)

Hyphenator bugs

Open issues based on test results :

sme

Lexicon version: Davvisámi, version 1.2, 2009-09-18

No known issues!

smj

Lexicon version: Julevsáme, version 1.2, 2009-09-20

  • 670 - Hard hyphen replaced with soft hyphen: 10-biejvvásattja (the word is not rec.; Bug #711) - still OPEN

sma

Command to test the hyphenator: 

preprocess dev/corp/pressemelding.txt | lookup bin/hyph-sma.fst | cut -f2 | \
lookup bin/hyphrules-sma.fst | grep -v '^$' | cut -f2 | uniq | see

TODO:

  • fix PL hyphenator errors (Tomi)
    • almost done - one smj bug left

Installer changes

TODO:

  • test InDesign installer (Sjur)

User documentation

TODO:

  • InDesign documentation (Sjur)
    • Norwegian translation received from Davvi Girji

1.2 release

Content:

  • several smj bug fixes
  • lexicalisations
  • InDesign Mac & Win
  • new OOo beta
  • improved installers, at least for Mac, preferably also for Windows

2.0 release

Content:

  • official sma proofing tools release

Nordplus Språk proofing test bench project

Arno Teigseth is hired for the summer. He is sitting in Equador, 7 hours after Norway. He is working with a quechua speller (using hunspell) and dictionary.

A goal is to use texts from parallel domains, in order to be able to compare nob and sme. We start out with 100000 words, 5000 for each genre:

  1. Discussion fora on the net
  2. Blogs

Discussion fora can be problematic, as they contain a lot of very oral language with deliberate oral or dialectal forms used in the text. As such, the texts won't be typical for the kind of texts people would like to spell-check, and thus the genre is problematic for the purpose at hand.

Possible other genres:

  1. Minutes from local associations
  2. Pupil texts - look for the home pages of the schools
  3. exam texts by 10th grade pupils, where the pupils have published the texts themselves
  4. skrivebua - Nordland fylkeskommune: all three Sámi languages

Text to speech

There will be regular meetings in this project from now on, every second week.

TODO:

  • put together the preprocessing transducers and scripts (Tomi)
  • refine syntax / dependency rules (Biret Ánne)
  • continue public tender process (Sjur)

Machine Translation

Background:

Kevin and Ryan have now closed the work on smenob and finsme. They will continue, but mainly do other things. As for smesmj, the possible student input is rescheduled for October.

We hope to have a student working one month on smesmj this summer. The world now knows (vaguely) that we work on MT, so we should do, as well. We also need to work together with the external ones.

All languages

TODO

  • Set up hfst and apertium for all relevant machines
  • Improve the sme-dis for MT purposes
  • Go through the bilingual transfer lexica for more general translations
  • Add alternative translations and selection rules
  • Arrange an Apertium seminar (later)
  • transfer hfst build infra from Apertium to Giellatekno

finsme

Technical problems with compunds in Finnish: each part in the compound is separated by a space character (+Ux20), which is creating problems in the transfer.

TODO

  • Tag unification
  • Adp split in fin (Trond)

smenob

Needed: Lexicon completion. Grammatical transfer rules

smesmj

New worker underway.

smesma

Infrastructure in place, to demo in Trondheim to encourage more work and projects.

CAT

Ciprian has made a translation memory based on our parallel corpus. The test looks promising, he has identified certain issues. We need to be clear about the license of the original parallel texts, and we need to know the original language (ie translation direction).

TODO:

  • make intelligent nobsme risten.no - requires nob morphology
    • nob.fst a la Trond
    • norskordbank.fst
    • nob.fst based on an xml source synchronised with Ordbanken source texts
    • should be coordinated with the Apertium analyser
  • write a TM script to turn a parallell corpus into TM entries
    • testing A-ITE on Norwegian Windows

SMA seminar in August/September

  • Place: Trondheim
  • Date: 30.8.-3.9.

Theme:

  • editing dictionaries
  • beta tools for sma
  • orthographic questions

TODO:

  • book lunch, coffee
  • make a list of participants (12 + 5 + 3) in $GTPRIV/ ( Maja)
    • done
  • call a select few that have not answered but that we want there (Maja)
    • done
  • preparations:
    • test installation of all needed software (Ciprian, Børre)
    • test XMLEditor on Windows, including plugin installation ( Ciprian, Børre)
      • plugin/configuration not yet tested, will need an installation batch/shell script for Windows
    • try to work out a unified DTD for dictionaries and Oahpa (or augment the general dictionary DTD with Oahpa-required features) (Ciprian)
    • sma Divvun beta - see above

Other

Start to make yearly reports

TODO

  • Set up a catalogue in plan/ (Trond)

Thursday inhouse seminar

Next time suggestion list:

  1. introduction to xslt - Ciprian to start out
    1. relevant xslt issues:
    2. basic principles of xslt …
    3. sorting in xslt … (have a look at the dictionary sort xslt script)
    4. converting from one xml format to another wilt xslt (sugg: convert from DivvunGT dictionary dtd to MacDict xml)

Future seminars:

  1. XQuery
  2. More XML (needs concretisation)
  3. UML
  4. other suggestions?

Summer planning

Topics:

  • speller test project -> Sjur, Børre, Thomas, X
  • speech synthesis -> Sjur, Trond, BA as a starter
  • risten.no -> Ciprian, Sjur, Tomi
  • Barents project follow-up meeting -> Trond, Sjur
  • sme and smj proofing tools, next version -> Thomas, Tomi, Sjur
  • HFST-based proofing tools -> Sjur
  • MT terminology project -> Trond, Linda, Fran, Kevin
  • HSL centre status -> Trond

Dates:

  • August: IceTAL, Reykjavik - Linda, Francis
  • sma seminar in Trondheim: Lexicography, Oahpa, Divvun2 beta
  • September 8: Konvens-workshop Saarbrücken: LT and text-technological methods for e-learning http: //konvens2010.de/workshop_en.html:
    • Lene will try to get an abstract accepted, acceptance 6.7

Next meeting, closing

The next meeting is 6.9.2010, 09: 30 Norwegian time.

The meeting was closed at 10: 47.

Appendix - task lists for the next week

Boerre

  • get the 2006-2010 Sámi Parliament protocolls into our repository
  • contact the Sámi translators at the government and ministeries to get more parallell texts
  • corpus access on the XServe
  • turn on corpus summary crontab
  • add updates of free & bound to the svnup alias
  • add Apertium to the XServe
  • implement language switch for static divvun site
  • improve XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Draw document
  • get translations of thank-you letter
  • make the new SL Server services functional:
    • group calendars
  • set up corpus mirroring on the XServe again
  • give Maja a WEbSak intro
  • add checkout of the free corpus to the gtsetup.sh script
  • add checkout of the bound corpus when on victorio
  • sma seminar in August/September:
    • test installation of all needed software
    • test XMLEditor on Windows, including plugin installation
    • test svn checkout and patch creation on Windows, using a GUI client
  • fix bugs!

Ciprian

  • sma seminar in August/September:
    • prepare slides
    • test XMLEditor plugin installation
    • augment the dictionary DTD with oahpa features and requirements
    • finnish the setup of the sma-oahpa on victorio
    • build a preliminary data set for sma-Leksa (based on the DTD)
  • add 15 entires per pos n, v, a to sma-oahpa lexa
  • Skolt-Oahpa:
    • fine tuning of semantic tags
    • finish localization
  • terminology:
    • merged the 2 doc files with the xls file containing the 2006 law terminology db
    • prepare a StarDict test version of the merged data for demo
    • compile a dictionary in StarDict format with all data featuring the properties wished by Ellen Ravna
  • add license header to all files
  • PhD-Projektbeskrivelse (internal deadline end of June 2010):
    • search, read, write (execute): high priority!
  • read and answer the newsgroups messages
  • update corpora (both monolingual and parallel) for Oslo (Glossa)
    • check the correctness of parallelity between sme and nob files
    • sentence-align sme with nob: fix tca2 problem
    • analyse/disambiguate: todo -- waiting for the last version of FSTs
  • corpus infra:
    • check the conversion from old rcs corpus repository to new svn-based
    • make the conversion scripts work with the new svn repository
      • add check for almost empty content
      • add processing of svg files
  • infrastructure
    • test cwb
    • continue with restructuring and cleaning the script catalogue as suggested in the newsgroup
    • transform sme-lexC files into XML format
    • make a schema/dtd description of the lexC-file (experiment with Komi and Romanian)
  • GT web:
    • add a tree visualizer for the dependency trees
    • add input help for special characters on the tool sites
    • automatise the web statistics
    • filter (English, German, etc.) input using language detection tools
    • put a note on the sites that these are NOT MT tools
    • input help for generating wordforms (dropdown menus).
  • Sandbox Oahpa:
    • integrate reCAPTCHA into Django (as Lene suggested)
    • debug the installed sb_oahpa
    • update and correct the Oapha docu site
  • Running Oahpa:
    • implement a testbench for Vasta (as Lene needs)
    • integrate reCAPTCHA after the SB-test
    • add an Oahpa clock and date excercise (cf. Numra)
    • email notification when the server goes down
    • check the XXX?
  • Sjd/Kom/Sms/Etc-Oahpa
    • try to implement and embed virtual keyboards for each specific Oahpa
    • try to learn something about compiling keyboard in general
  • dictionaries, generally:
    • synchronize the source language entries from a specific dictionary with the entries in the morphology component (now especially for sma): that means nothing then put the entries from dict that are NOT analyzed into the lexC files
    • the StarDict on Windows: try the HTML-plugin (that means that users can use StarDict 3.2)
    • try to reduce the dict-size on mac: experiment with xPointer, etc.
  • Fkv: Nob - Nob: Fkv:
    • incorporate novel glossary into the dict
    • try to implement a web version of the dictionaries in HTML
  • KomEngFin:
    • test the automatic sorting by Komi alphabet in xsl (as discussed with Trond)
  • SmeNob:
    • incorporate the passives into the last version of the sme: nob
    • start a new compilation of SmeNob and improve it based on the experience gained with SmaNob
  • SmaNobSwe:
    • extend the smanobswe dictionary: waiting for data (incorporate the data from Maja-Lisa)
  • SjdRus:
    • continue the work at the Kildin-Russian dictionary, next internal deadline is after finishing the PhD project description
  • MT
    • test A-ITE on Windows

Maja

  • prepare: Drøfting og diskusjon om lånord i sørsamisk
  • more work on sma adjectives
  • look at incoming loanwords
  • continue gathering sma corpus texts
  • finish compound tags for adjectives
  • Rette goldstandard doc - så mange som mulig - high prio! - min. 1000 (helst 5000) ord løpende tekst
  • test conversion to xml to ensure there are no markup errors in goldstandards
  • continue gathering sma corpus texts
    • get sma articles in Š-bláđđi
    • the Gun Utsi book is almost there - one contract missing
  • Corpus gathering:
    • contact Inga Margrethe Bjørn Eira
    • follow up the yearbook-articles
    • restart the letter mailing thing using WebSak
  • adjectives
  • fix bugs!

Sjur

  • add checkout of the free corpus to the gtsetup.sh script
  • add checkout of the bound corpus when on victorio
  • add voikko support to our proofing test bench
  • add all our Sámi analysers and test them as spellers
  • run tests using Hunspell, Voikko, Polderland for our Sámi lexicons
  • install & configure the Unison news reader
  • difftest for fst and PL speller
  • Northern areas
    • plan a meeting/seminar in Tromsø
    • make a plan for the first two years, update overall plan
  • @TTS: continue public tender process
  • make Leif Åge send out CD's to distribution points
  • contintue Nordplus Sprog project
  • Write a formal letter to Davvi girji about electronic dictionaries
  • make XSL script to transform leaflet Forrest XDocs to an OOo Drawer document
  • follow-up on some Polderland-related bugs: 621, 630, 652
  • find and contact the correct person in SD, to get the manuscript for all Sámi teaching material now being given out to the schools
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

  • prepare: Drøfting og diskusjon om lånord i sørsamisk
  • check extra hyphens in the lexc continuations with Trond
  • test conversion to xml to ensure there are no markup errors
  • prepare text´s about normativity issue to SGL/SGM
  • Digitalize south saami books
  • fix bugs!

Tomi

  • run tests using Hunspell, Voikko, Polderland for our Sámi lexicons
  • put together the TTS preprocessing transducers and scripts
  • try to compile voikko
  • add all our Sámi analysers and test them as spellers
  • when the new build infrastructure works as it should, delete the old ones
  • document how compounding is controlled in the PLX conversion
  • fix double hyphen bugs
  • fix PL smj hyphenator bug
  • fix PL conversion bugs
  • fix bugs!

Trond

  • check extra hyphens in the lexc continuations with Thomas
  • Course plan for Barents meeting/seminar, october. Financing must be in place.
    • check the time needed to tet visas with the UiT admin
    • call the ministry
    • plan a meeting/seminar in Tromsø
    • make a plan for the first two years, update overall plan
  • MT/Terminology
  • fix bugs!.