Meeting_2010-11-22

Meeting setup

  • Date: 18.10.2010
  • Time: 09.30 Norw. time
  • Place: Internet
  • Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat

Agenda

  • Dictionaries release plan
  • Divvun release plan

Cf. one of the following, depending on context:

  • the upper bar of the SEE window (provided you use the JSPWiki syntax mode)
  • the TOC in Forrest-rendered output, like HTML and PDF

Opening, agenda review, participants

  • Opened at 10: 02.
  • Present: Børre, Maja, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi

Divvun

  • status of sma open issues (bugs: just the number, we won't spend time on the issues themselves; other open issues?)
  • documentation
  • v2.0 sticker
  • installer status
  • testing, esp. on MS Office 2010 (Win) and MS Office 2011 (Mac)
    • installation
    • uninstallation
    • usage (no crashes, correct language, etc)
  • user documentation - on our site, as part of the installer, etc.
  • web pages
  • deadlines

34 open bugs: TODO!!

  • 595 - prefix+name as split comp without hyphen
  • 619 - numerals and pronouns to NAMÁK and SASJ fails
  • 621 - hyphen-suggestions resulting in double hyphen
  • 629 - a taking part of compound
  • 634 - Prop gen + hyphen + Prop gen
  • 641 - numeral+noun compounds
  • 644 - cased numeral+numeral compounds
  • 647 - numerals+NOUN
  • 648 - unmotivated suggestions with numeral+noun
  • 652 - UPPERCASE-typos only get acronym-suggestions
  • 711 - numeral compounds and cases
  • 785 - does not recognize alphabet-abbr+noun
  • 802 - multi word proper nouns
  • 803 - FINJU-/VINJU- words accepted single-handed
  • 805 - Nouns+Acronyms
  • 826 - gæhtsani
  • 827 - VGen
  • 828 - magkeres
  • 829 - +A+Ord
  • 830 - +Ine and +Ela +Attr
  • 831 - gellie not recognized
  • 833 - Gerund odd stem
  • 834 - collective numerals
  • 837 - noun+adjective compounds
  • 845 - compounds with Pl+Gen in second part
  • 846 - non existent words accepted
  • 869 - sub-marked entries accepted by speller
  • 870 - Default compounding
  • 889 - number+case
  • 890 - proper nouns does not compound
  • 891 - millijovne is not recognized
  • 892 - noun+Acro without hyphen
  • 893 - Vowels in compound - how should we resolve this?
  • 894 - hyphens or not in compounds
  • 897 - vervies is not accepted by the speller, but as you can see it compiles in fst.
  • 901 - swedish 'ö' in swedish place-names? The "Norsjö" case
  • 902 - prefixes not working

Prio for Maja:

  • sammensetinger
  • wowels in compound - how should we resolve this? - send til SGM i dag! - hvordan vil de normere dem med dobbelvokal- med eller uten bindestrek. info: bindestrek tre like vokaler. Bindestrek mellom alle ord som begynner med dobbelvokal i det andre ordet. Med Polderland - finsk har det slik: altid bindestrek mellom tre like vokaler. Foreløpig løsning.

Vokal + vokal ved ordgrense, der andre ordet byrjar på:

  1. lang vokal
  2. kort vokal
  3. diftong

Bindestrek eller ikkje mellom orda?

Cns - Vow Vow

Cns = n, j, or s 

[Vow Vow ^ Vow]   aa  ee   - only, NOT ææ, or åå, or öö or ii or oo

SGM Meeting

Unofficial summary for issues relating to Divvun:

Bindestrek

  • alltid med tre vokalar, i prinsippet likt finsk (men finsk deler alltid når to like vokalar møtest)
  • always and only for a sequence of three identical vowels: a-aa, e-ee
  • ikkje ved ie#ea, or in other cases where two identical vowel meets

Loan words

Fylgjer Ove Lorentz langt på veg, der Ove legg fram alternativ er det enno ope: - akseptabel - akseptaabele e. -abele -> aa

Orddeling

- prinsipp 2 - ok - fonem blir halde samla, dvs konsonantgrupper som representerer ein lyd blir ikkje delt

Akronym og kasusendingar

  • deleteikn alltid kolon, dvs USA: se, ev. USA: ese
  • : se eller : ese enno ope

Sticker

It is on it's way - Sjur talked to Roger Østby, head of the communication/PR department at SD.

He and his team will also handle meeting room, invitation to the release, etc.

Translations

Who: Maja+Tomi+Thomas

  • front page (all languages, Børre has made major changes, more changes likely to come)
  • user documentation + readme
  • menyar og flikar

Documentation updates

  • user documentation: new screen shots for new installer
  • check the text to see if it is consistent with the new installer

Testing

Windows testing on the following OS's and Office versions:

  • XP (we have it)
  • Windows 7 (get it)
  • MS Office 2007 (get it)
  • MS Office 2010 (get it)

Mac:

  • MS Office 2008
  • MS Office 2011

Technical testing - what to test:

  • installation
  • deinstallation
  • that the spelling and hyphenation works, etc.

If there are special considerations the user needs to be aware of, make sure to add it to the documentation.

Web page(s)

No:

  • tre tabellar (1 pr OS)
  • kvar tabell har:
    • ei nedlastingslenke
    • ei eller fleire dokumentasjonslenker 
Latest Divvun tools:
- __Divvun for Windows__ (MS Office) - __les meg__ - __video__
    [] Download now!

- __Divvun for Mac__ (MS Office) - __les meg__ - __video__
    [] Download now!

- __Divvun for OpenOffice__ - __les meg__ - __video__
    [] Download now!

Fleire nedlastingspakker (InDesign, eldre Divvun-versjonar, ...)

Tilleggsdokumentasjon.. info...

Schedule

nov 19: binaries, NSIS Win installer(s) from the Netherlands, new lexicons ready nov 22: Mac installers ready nov 26: testing finished nov 29: backup compilation of lexicons dec 1: final compilation of lexicons, deadline for user documentation, sticker dec 2: deadline for cd image dec 3: cd burning dec 7: travelling dec 8: release