140110
Meeting on the crk project:
Present: Antti, Conor, Lene, Trond.
Issues
- how to resume work on Plains Cree (and Haida)
- what would work for demonstrating at Miyo, now at Muskwacis
- The language-technological pre-CILLDI workshop
- Lene's visit
How to resume work on Plains Cree (and Haida)
Haida
Jordan has been updated on tags (category / property)
Status quo:
Nouns (disregarding +Dim):
atim, iskwew, maniway are ok.
Intransitive verbs
- Ok: mâto VAI, miciso VAI, nipâ VAI (Lemma = nipâw?)
- Fail: wapam (but this is VTA!)
The other intransitive types are missing from yaml.
Transitive verbs
- Ok: atoskah VTA-1, wicih VTA-1
- Fail: wâpam VT-1, mow VTA-1
The failed ones are almost ok (+Imp is not quite there)
These only represent VTA-1, we need to cover all types in yaml,
Pronouns
We have a start. They should be added, brute force.
yaml
Todo: Add the missing ones and correct errors.
Flag diacritics
Trond is revising the flag diacritics:
- Earlier: one flag per person-number value (1sg, 2sg, 3sg, 1pl...)
- Now, tentatively: one flag per prefix (NI, KI, NULL)
This process must be finished, Trond to do that.
Diminutives
Lexicalising them?
- Add isis or most often is to most nouns
- if the noun contais t, all are changed to c
- when the word ends in a vowwl...
- For some nouns, the dim ending is osis
The problematic word here are "most" and "some".
PRO lexicalising:
- easier to have a dictionary entry: cf. "woman", "girl"
- easier morphology
PRO grammatical treatment:
- All nouns have diminutives (hmm, but not the diminutives...)
A mixed solution?
Divide the lexicon in two:
- the special cases (no morph Dim process)
- the general case of +Dim: is
This could be done like this:
- exceptions:
- atim +N --> infl lexicon
- aciosis +N+Dim --> infl lexicon
- atim +N --> infl lexicon
- the general case:
- minôs +N --> the dim derivation lexicon --> infl lexicon
atim: tem
atim:atim IRREGULARDECL "dog" ; mistatim IRREGULARDECL "horse" ; ! mistatimwa atim:têm IRREGULARINFL "dog-possessed" ; !this is the stem for atim when it is inflected for person
- you send the stem atim of the lemma atim here: IRREGULARDECL
- you send the stem têm of the lemma atim here IRREGULARINFL
why tem IRREGULARINFL is wrong?
dog:atim dog:têm a t i m +N +Pl = 6 symbols in the upper representation (upper of lexc) a t i m w a k = 7 symbols in the lower representation (lower of twolc)
(skipping the lower lexc = upper twolc: a t i m %> w a k etc... in the middle there)
- to the left of : you find the upper
- to the right of : you find the lower
The yaml files have upper to the left and lower to the right of colon
Locatives
On all words? On inanimates only?
Dictionaries
- Earle Waugh (10000 entries)
- HCW (5000 entries)
Kaidi could search for all entries where the two dictionaries and the grammar
what would work for demonstrating at Miyo, now at Muskwacis
With respect to the Miyo visit, -- what sort of program we want to set up
Goal for the visit: Go there to look and learn.
Issues to fix on our side before the jan 20th deadline:
- The dictionary as-such and in text (this we have)
- (we need some more words in the dictionary, at least some VTA)
-
main/words/dicts/crkeng/script/1c2x.pl (csv to xml)
- thereafter add the output to main/words/dicts/crkeng/src
- Trond will then add the updated xml files to pikiskwewina.
- Example input: atim<tab>N<tab>dog
- (we need some more words in the dictionary, at least some VTA)
- Spellchecker (dependent upon getting crk into LO
- or we could do crk as another lg: Trond to look into that
- or we could do crk as another lg: Trond to look into that
- Paradigm generation
- Text analysis on the web (Trond to add crk there)
svn mail
Does not work (No one in Edmonton gets svn mail). Trond: Look into that.
The language-technological pre-CILLDI workshop
Lene's visit
- Formalities immigration: Invitation letter, duration, etc.
- May-July pluss September-November
- Accomodation
So, we have the general parameters in place, and the weather will be nice.