140815
Meeting, AKU Oahpa, 15.8.2014
Present: Heli, Jaska, Trond
Agenda
- Status
- Participants
- Aika
Status
Documentation
Documentation in russian is MT-translated: http://oahpa.no/addlang/index.rus.html
TODO
- Correct http://oahpa.no/addlang/developerleksa.rus.html
- ped/userdocs/addlang/developerleksa.rus.xml
- ped/userdocs/addlang/developerleksa.rus.xml
- Correct http://oahpa.no/addlang/index.rus.html
Budget
- Tromsø:
- Heli: 300€ hotel, ferry ticket, food, wages
- Trond: Matka, ruoka
- Heli: 300€ hotel, ferry ticket, food, wages
- AKU
- Jaska.
- Jargal: room-n-board, travel
- Oleg Kazanin: room-n-board, travel
- Jaska.
Participants
- bxr
- Jargal Badagarov, Ulan Ude (rus, eng)
- Jargal Badagarov, Ulan Ude (rus, eng)
- izh
- Heinike Heinsoo (fin, rus, eng)
- Timo Rantakaulio? (fin, rus, eng)
- Heinike Heinsoo (fin, rus, eng)
- kpv
- Galina Punegova (=>Kokkonen), StPb (rus)
- Galina Misharina?, Hki (fin, rus, )
- Svetlana Lumme?, Turku (rus, fin, eng?)?
- Galina Punegova (=>Kokkonen), StPb (rus)
- mdf
- Oleg Kazanin, StPb (rus, eng)
- Oleg Kazanin, StPb (rus, eng)
- mhr
- Andrei Chemyshev?, Syktyvkar (rus, eng?)
- Andrei Chemyshev?, Syktyvkar (rus, eng?)
- mrj
- Julia Kuprina, Hki (rus, fin, eng?)
- Julia Kuprina, Hki (rus, fin, eng?)
- myv
- Ivan Ryabov, Saransk (rus, deu)
- Jelena Klementjeva, Saransk (rus)
- Ivan Ryabov, Saransk (rus, deu)
- olo
- Natalia Giloeva, Jsuu (fin, rus)
- Natalia Giloeva, Jsuu (fin, rus)
- yrk
- Lotta Jalava, Hki (fin, eng, rus)
- Sven-Eerik Soosaar, Hki (fin, eng, rus)
- Lotta Jalava, Hki (fin, eng, rus)
- sms
- Eino Koponen, Hki
- Markus Juutinen, Hki
- Eino Koponen, Hki
- udm
- Svetlana Yedigarova, Hki (fin, rus)
- Nadi Muš, Tln (est, rus, fin)
- Svetlana Yedigarova, Hki (fin, rus)
- vep
- -
- bxr
- Nothing yet
- Nothing yet
- izh
- Alpha
- Alpha
- kpv
- Old Oahpa from Bodø, some content (numra, leksa)
- Old Oahpa from Bodø, some content (numra, leksa)
- mdf
- Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
- Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
- mhr
- Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
- Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
- mrj
- Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
- Lexical material incoming (Julia)
- Alpha version of Leksa and Numra
- myv
- Some more content, lemma: 35N, 19V, 12A, 12Prop
- MorfaS, MorfaC up and running
- Some more content, lemma: 35N, 19V, 12A, 12Prop
- olo
- So far no lexicon
- So far no lexicon
- yrk
- Old Oahpa from Bodø.
- Old Oahpa from Bodø.
- sms
- Appr. 100 words, Numra, Leksa
- Appr. 100 words, Numra, Leksa
- udm
- Alpha
Languages with Oahpa setup
- bxr - no setup
- izh - http://testing.oahpa.no/izh_oahpa
- kpv - http://oahpa.no/kpvoahpa
- mdf - http://testing.oahpa.no/mdf_oahpa
- mhr - http://testing.oahpa.no/mhr_oahpa
- mrj - http://testing.oahpa.no/mrj_oahpa
- myv - http://oahpa.no/erzya
- olo - http://testing.oahpa.no/olo_oahpa
- sms - http://oahpa.no/nuorti
- udm - http://testing.oahpa.no/udm_oahpa
- vep - http://testing.oahpa.no/vep_oahpa
- yrk - http://oahpa.no/yrkoahpa
TODO:
Set up bxr_oahpa (Heli)
main/ped/userdoc/addlang
Aika
Technical preparations
Computers: Mac, Windows
SVN: checkin access to all participants
Jaska provides Trond with a list of
- Windows setup
- TortoiseSVN
- EditPadLite
- TortoiseSVN
- Mac setup
- xcode
- svn
- SubEthaEdit
- Check out gtcore, lang/ownlanguage, ped
- xcode
- Linux setup
- Gedit
TODO
- Ask participants about computer skills (Jaska MAKES and distributes: questionnaire: computer experience, command line, terminal, OAHPA, program vs. document, experience installing programs, internet vs. IE,...)
Content
- Make and publish a program
- Make a webpage for the course x 2 (eng, rus) (T, J)
Things to do:
Giellatekno overview
targetlang_pos_semclass_rus1, rus2_fin1, fin2_eng
Ferdig semantisk sett
кай_N_ANIMAL_чайка маленькая_small seagull оа̄з_N_ANIMAL_паук_spider пуар_N_ANIMAL_овод_gadfly пуаз_N_ANIMAL_олень_reindeer оа̄к_N_ANIMAL_лосиха_лосиха пӯра_N_ANIMAL_птенцы_baby birds кӣгк_N_ANIMAL_кукушка_cuckoo те̄хммэ руччкесь_A_COLOR, CLOTHES_коричневый_brown а̄лехь_A_COLOR, CLOTHES_синий_dark blue чӯввесь а̄лехь_A_COLOR, CLOTHES_голубой_blue 8 ABSTRACT 3 ACTIVITY 2 ANIMAL 23 ANIMAL_DOM 24 ANIMAL_OTHER 23 ANIMAL_WILD 28 BIRD 3 BODYPART 93 BODY_OTHER 2 BUILDING 19 CHURCH_OTHER 7 CLOSE_PEOPLE 51 CLOTHES 2 COLOR 24 CUTLERY 55 DIM_SET 10 DRINK 4 FAMILY 40 FISH 11 FOOD 7 FOOD_DISH 32 FOOD_GROCERY 2 FOOD_OTHER 36 FOOD_TRADITIONAL 5 GRAMMAR_TERMINOLOGY 29 HANDICRAFT_MATERIAL 1 HANDICRAFT_MATERIALS 20 HANDICRAFT_PROD 12 HANDICRAFT_TOOLS 11 HEALTH_OTHER 1 HUMAN_RELATED 24 ILLNESS 15 INSECT 71 LIVING_PLACE 67 LIVING_PLACE_HOME 2 LIVING_PLACE_NATURE 13 MONTH 1 NAME_OTHER 17 NATURE 1 NUMBER 10 PEOPLE 3 PEOPLE_OTHER 41 PLACE_NATURE 42 PLACE_WATER 58 PLANT_OTHER 13 PROFESSION 66 RELATIVE 72 SCHOOL_EDUCATION 43 TIME_EXPRESSION 15 TRAVEL 29 WEATHER 12 WEEKDAY
Kildin Saami has 2849 nouns, a bit too much
Vi kan ta rus - eng - fin
<sem class="SCHOOL_EDUCATION"/> <sem class="TIME_EXPRESSION"/> <t stat="pref">поздравление <sem class="SCHOOL_EDUCATION"/> <sem class="SCHOOL_EDUCATION"/> <t stat="pref">барабан <sem class="LIVING_PLACE_NATURE"/> <sem class="TRAVEL"/> <t stat="pref">чум <sem class="ANIMAL_WILD"/> <t stat="pref">зверь <sem class="PEOPLE_OTHER"/> <t stat="pref">молодежь <sem class="DRINK"/> <t stat="pref">молоко <e> <lg> <l pos="n">рыбпехь</l> </lg> <sources> <book name="l1"/> <book name="Saamkilsyjjt"/> </sources> <mg> <semantics> <sem class="CLOTHES"/> </semantics> <tg xml:lang="rus"> <t stat="pref">платок</t> </tg> <tg xml:lang="eng"> <t stat="pref">cloth</t> </tg> <tg xml:lang="sme"> <t stat="pref">cloth_SME</t> </tg> <tg xml:lang="nob"> <t stat="pref">klede</t> </tg> <tg xml:lang="fin"> <t stat="pref">liina</t> <t>vaate</t> </tg> <tg xml:lang="ger"> <t stat="pref">Stoff</t> </tg> </mg> </e>
Sett at vi tar sjd_oahpa
For how many of the 2800 rus nouns in sjd_oahpa do we already have a myv parallel?
One possibility:
- Most common 1500 N + 500 V + 500 A in Russian (Trond)
- semclass from sjd_oahpa (Heli)
- Look them up in target lang and in fin, eng (Heli)
- Script leksa lexicon file from that (Heli)
- spend course on testing and refining (Heli)
Then add words not turning up.
- Phrases to Morfa-C:
- (puhua, kirjoittaa, lukea, laulaa, ymmärtää) + (suomi) =>MAINV LANG+Tra
Next meeting
Aug 22nd 0900 Swedish time.