meeting_090110

Lene, Saara, Trond.

Pedagogical grammar explanations

Remove the link to it for now, since it is not good enough.

sme-norm.fst - why does it not function? Makefile?

make fst-norm TARGET=sme

Lene does not get the sme-norm.fst compiled. The command is:

Cf. bugreport

Coll nums included

LEXICON OVCCIS ! Collective numerals                                              
 +N+Coll+Sg+Nom:%>X4 K ;
 +N+Coll+Ess:%>X4in K ;
 +N+Coll:%>X2 MALLAS- ;

space disappears in the analysis of user feedback

TT fixed the files 

xml$grep " " *
grammarexplanation.csv:intransitivt verb	Verb som ikke kan ta objekt i akkusativ: ’mannat’
questions_nouns.xml:      <text>SUBJ MAINV čoavdagiid N-ILL</text>
questions_nouns.xml:      <text>INTERR SUBJ MAINV ságaid</text>

This has been a bug for a while

donháliidat is not a word

Messages are translated into sme

- pronouns - finite verb - option boos vs semset - semset: POS

sets vs. books - only one of them should function at a time

Gradation errors

lemma instead of id (form tag forgotten?) <entry id="bassi_actor"> <lemma>bassi</lemma> <pos class="N"/> <translations> <tr xml: lang="nob">vasker</tr> <tr xml: lang="nob">reingjører</tr> <tr xml: lang="nob">rengjøringsassistent</tr> <tr xml: lang="fin">siivoja</tr> </translations> <semantics> <sem class="PROFESSION"/> </semantics> <stem class="bisyllabic" diphthong="no" gradation="no" soggi="i" rime="0"/> <dialect class=""/> <sources> </sources> <forms> <form tag="N+Sg+Gen">bassi</form> </forms> </entry>

valency vs. sem class - Lene makes them all "sem class" <valency> <val class=""/> <val class="COMV"/> <val class="TV"/></valency> <semantics> <sem class="VERBAL-V"/> </semantics>

target="target"

ex.

  <topic name="work_adult">    
      <utt type="question" name="Leat_go_barggus_adult">
	<text>Leat go barggus?</text>
	<!-- Do you work??-->
	<alt target="pass" link="work_or_school_closing_adult"/>
	<alt target="pos" link="Makkár_bargu_dus_lea_adult"/>
	<alt target="default" link="work_or_school_closing_adult"/>
      </utt>

Question with non-expected answer:

How to identify &dia-target from below into the <utt> block above.

"<Leat>"
	"leat" V IV Ind Prs Sg2 
"<go>"
	"go" Pcle 
"<barggus>"
	"bargu" N Sg Loc 
"<^qst>"
	"^sahka" QDL Leat_go_barggus_adult &dia-pos 
"<Juo>"
	"juo" Interj 
"<,>"
	"," CLB 
"<mun>"
	"mun" Pron Pers Sg1 Nom 
"<lean>"
	"leat" V IV Ind Prs Sg1 
"<doavttir>"
	"doavttir" N Sg Nom &dia-pass 
"<.>"
	"." CLB 

wordlists vs. word class

variable and grammar tag - change the text so it doesn´t need any grammar tag

• I come from Kenya-Loc
• I think Kenya-Nom is a nice place

(the answer just picks the Nom from the analysis of the answer)

youngsters with smaller pictures on Sahka frontpage

sahka file updated, let us have a look at the result.

[Helpdocument|http: //giellatekno.uit.no/ped/OahpaTechnicalDocumentation.html]

ped/oahpa/drill/templates/mgame_n.html (Morfa for nouns) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/mgame_l.html (Morfa numerals) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/mgame_a.html (Morfa for adjectives) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/mgame_v.html (Morfa for verbs) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/quizz.html (Leksa common nouns) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/quizz_n.html (Leksa placenames) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/num.html (Numra cardinal) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/num_ord.html (Numra ordinals) 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/vasta.html 
ped/oahpa/drill/templates/sahka.html

Example: In order to write instructions for numra:

Open the document ped/oahpa/drill/templates/num.html

Edit instructions like

{% block gamename %}{% endblock %}
{% block instructions %}{% trans "add instructions here in English" %}{% endblock %}

In your own home directory, create the translations:

• cd ped/oahpa
• django-admin.py makemessages -a
• svn ci -m "new generated files" locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/django.po

... for the other files

Update the translations to the official page.

• cd /home/oahpa/
• svn up ped
• cd ped/oahpa/
• django-admin.py compilemessages

Insructions block is included: ped/oahpa/drill/templates/game.html

The django template language is documented here:

http: //docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/templates/

in oahpa/drill/templates/num.html

{% block instructions %}{% trans "Forms for numerals." %}{% endblock %}
   XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX             YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

And correspondingly, in oahpa/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/django.po

#: drill/templates/num.html:21
msgid "Forms for numerals."
msgstr "Anna numeraali perusmuodossa."

So, update the Ys and not the Xs in the string above.

ped/oahpa/media/images/

Saara's and Antti's Tromsø trip

In Tromsø Wednesday until Sunday.

tuesday:

• trond with European min lg charter group 11.00-12.00
• trond 30 min intro Giellatekno 13.00 at the library

tirsdag 3. februar 2009
Program:(innlagte "kaffepauser" mellom foredragene)
12.00 Velkommen
12.15 - 12.45 Minikurs i samisk ved Samisk språksenter i Ullsfjord
13.00 - 13.30 Foredrag ved Trond Trosterud om det samiske språkteknologiprosjektet Giellatekno
13.45 - 14.15 Foredrag ved Lene Hansen om boka "Storm på kysten"
14.30 - 15.00 Foredrag ved Åse Mette Johansen om mastergradsoppgaven/boka "Velkommen te våres Norge - En kvalitativ studie av
språkbytte og språkbevaring i Manndalen i Gáivuotna/Kåfjord."

wednesday:

• Lene at course: Monday, Wed and Thur 10-12 and 13-15:

thursday:

• Lene seminar
• Trond 15 min lecture

Kunne du tenke deg å bidra på samisk miniforskningsmaraton (kan hende vi endrer navnet) den 5. februar? Da tenker jeg på en presentasjon på 10-15 min som er populærvitenskapelig og med en tittel som er spenstig. Opplegget blir på aud 2, og innlegget må være på norsk

Do the release

Release party thursday.

PR

• Send a press release on the release on beforehand.
• The Labyrinth journalist

URL

this works:

• http: //oahpa.uit.no/ => http: //gtsvn.uit.no/

this is what we want:

• http: //oahpa.uit.no/ => http: //gtsvn.uit.no/oahpa/
• http: //oahpa.no/ => http: //gtsvn.uit.no/oahpa/

Think of things for an internal deadline monday the week before, or something.

All

• Actively use Bugzilla

Lene

• valency vs. sem class - Lene makes them all "sem class" - done
• make rules for "dia-pass" tags - done
• variable and grammar tag - change the text so it doesn´t need any grammar tag - done
• visl update
• contact with Mona Solbakk
• write better/more instructions

Saara

• Temporarily remove the grammar explanation link
• dia-pass
• sets vs. books - only one of them should function at a time
• generation of tasks - form tag forgotten?
• reinstall feedback
• test with the interface language
• plan the trip to Tromsø
• forms in lexicon

Trond

• Test the empty cache option for change of metalanguage, report.
• Look at the template language
• fix sme-norm.fst (so it will accept "Mun")
• visl update
• contact with Else Grete

Wednesday